Just reached 3 star goldsmith. What the heck??

[Espritduo]

The actual problem isn't the people selling the mats, it's the gilbuyers that are willing to buy them at any price and keep them at such crazy prices. What happens with any new and rare item is it starts out at an excessively high price as the first few sellers try to test the waters and see how much people are willing to pay for this unknown quantity. I do this with any rare thing I get, and I assume most other people do, too.

What *should* happen at this point is that as nobody pays the insanely high prices, we lower it down until it reaches the level at which people will actually start buying them. What happens instead is you get a bunch of lazy cheaters that run to their mommy's credit card and just buy whatever they want at whatever the prices are...and there's enough of them now that all the new hot items like FCIII's, primal demimateria, and what have you basically stay out of reach of the normal, legit player and only get bought by gilbuyers.

[Divine_Intervention]

It really is annoying. I loved it when i finally finished my goldsmith melds and hit over 400 craftsmanship. "Awesome cool stuff to make now!", I thought. Then checked the board for the price of the mats.

Heck, I don't even mind making money on my account much. I tend to do so just so I can get mats to make these really cool things, which i then tend to sell or gift off market board. Damn, I'm happy when my gilpurse is sitting at about 500k lol.

How about it? Any other poor multilevelled master crafters out there?

[scarebearz]

Heck, I don't even mind making money on my account much. I tend to do so just so I can get mats to make these really cool things, which i then tend to sell or gift off market board. Damn, I'm happy when my gilpurse is sitting at about 500k lol.

How about it? Any other poor multilevelled master crafters out there?

If you happy when you have 500k total, then your really not trying to make any gil.

If you don't put in even minimal effort to try and afford the mats, then you should not be complaining about the prices imo.

All the demi materia needed can be farmed fairly easily, not need at all to buy them at crazy prices, just requires a little effort. That's the reason prices are high, because few people actually try to get them, primal demi's for example are pretty fast to farm.

[Divine_Intervention]

If you happy when you have 500k total, then your really not trying to make any gil.

If you don't put in even minimal effort to try and afford the mats, then you should not be complaining about the prices imo.

All the demi materia needed can be farmed fairly easily, not need at all to buy them at crazy prices, just requires a little effort. That's the reason prices are high, because few people actually try to get them, primal demi's for example are pretty fast to farm.

1) I don't make money just to make money. See point about just wanting to make cool stuff xD
2) To afford mats, i went and levelled my miner , and my botanist, both to fifty, both 2 star. I have no problem putting work in for things.

3) Desynthesis is anything but easy and quick. Yes, I can go farm 2000 gold ore, synth them to rose gold nuggets, synth them to aetheryte rings, and then go and desynth them and start all over again. So 25 gold ore an hour nq, you do the math. Also add in possibly spending a day or so farming the shards/crystals/clusters to do so. Then add farming the materials for making artisans spectacles after all that, in the hopes my desynth is high enough to actually manage it.

No, I don't have a problem farming/spending time working on things, i think my lodestone profile shows that. I do have a problem with outrageous prices for things that, let's be honest, raiders half the time have no idea what the thing is actually for.

[scarebearz]

If your smart about how you Level Desynthesis, you can just buy the mats/items to desynth and level it while *making gil* at the same time.

Once high enough you farm Garuda HM if you want Garuda demi's.

[Divine_Intervention]

The point is clearly misunderstood. Where do we justify the jump from 200kish for a HQ 2star item, to for example, 22 million as of last night for a Van of the Vortex?

Yes there's time and effort involved, but ultimately, 3 star crafting as an individual is stagnant until you spend a month or so getting your desynth to the point you can manage that, farming extremes for the specific items, farming HM in the hopes that the item you are trying to desynth, which actually matches your class shows up, and then hope that you win the roll against 8 other people, who may or may not be doing the same thing.

[scarebearz]

The point is clearly misunderstood. Where do we justify the jump from 200kish for a HQ 2star item, to for example, 22 million as of last night for a Van of the Vortex?

Yes there's time and effort involved, but ultimately, 3 star crafting as an individual is stagnant until you spend a month or so getting your desynth to the point you can manage that, farming extremes for the specific items, farming HM in the hopes that the item you are trying to desynth, which actually matches your class shows up, and then hope that you win the roll against 8 other people, who may or may not be doing the same thing.

I've farmed primal demi's and it's nowhere near as hard as your making it out to be, in fact it's pretty easy.

Your saying the mats to make 1 Garuda costs 22mil?

How much for the Battle III, Feather, Garuda Demi's?

Most 3 star crafting is the i90 gears, that are now very cheap to make, so I don;t see why your moaning about the price of 3 star crafts, when it's only the i95 vanity weapons that are expensive to make.

[Lebenoshl]

No one has ever gotten rich by complaining and asking Square Enix for handouts.

[Divine_Intervention]

I don't recall asking for handouts... show me that.