Just reached 3 star goldsmith. What the heck??

[Divine_Intervention]

Okay, so as title says, just reached 3* goldsmithing. I was REALLY looking forward to making some awesome glamors for my toon, some amazing furniture for my FC etc.

But really.. what the HELL is with the price of 3 star crafting??

vortex feather - 900k
demimateria of vortex - 3 needed - 985k each
etc etc

Let's think. Maximum money (on my server yes), you make from 2 * is around 300k for, erm. dodore survival belt for example. BUT, you put about 280k into getting mats for it anyway. so it's actually only a 20k profit.

Can someone explain to me.. where on EARTH do we start to get the money for these things. I mean yeah, i love extremes and hardmodes, but i have to do this all day every day now to make money? I'm also level.. 76-ish? On desynth, but i'm judging by time spent on it already, it's going to take at least 1k more aetheryte rings?

Please, don't take this as a QQ thread, it really isn't, i just have NO idea how to actually start affording to provide these 3 star crafts.

[Espritduo]

Most 3-star items are extremely easy and cheap to make nowadays with myth mats at bottom barrel prices thanks to hunts. It's only the new 2.3 stuff that uses high level demimateria that is prohibitively expensive to make.

[Lyrinn]

That has nothing to do with 3 star crafting and everything to do with how rare the mats are.

Vortex Feather - Need to farm Garuda EX, and on top of being a rare drop, it randomly goes to one of the eight players. Two layers of RNG.
Demimaterias - Need to farm Garuda HM. Not only do you need to win the rolls on loot, but the loot also has to be something you can desynth. Then you need to successfully desynth it, then hope you get demimaterias instead of some 1 star mat. Four layers of RNG.

[NJA]

As Espritduo said, focus on 2* and 3* crafts that don't require demimateria. It varies a lot from server to server, but these should currently turn a good profit. Also, when 2.38 hits personal housing should see people flock to buy cool housing goods, of which GSM can make quite a few.

[StouterTaru]

Desynthing 1,000 Aether Rings might take you from 76 up to 79. You need to start doing higher level stuff, artisan spectacles, level 60/70 dungeon jewelry, wolf mark ilvl70 jewelry, etc.

[LineageRazor]

Bottom line: If something is expensive, it means that it is probably both highly desired and hard-to-get. If it's for a Glamour item you desire, you just gotta suck it up and pony up the cash or go through the process of farming up the mats yourself and learning firsthand WHY they're priced so high.

[AttacKat]

But really.. what the HELL is with the price of 3 star crafting??

vortex feather - 900k
demimateria of vortex - 3 needed - 985k each
etc etc
...
Can someone explain to me.. where on EARTH do we start to get the money for these things.

Yeah, it is SE's telling the crafters to "bend over" and gives combat classes the total control of the market (dungeon only material drops), and making crafters non-important aspect of this game.

[Divine_Intervention]

It's painful. I'm more than capable of running these instances, but the drop rate is pretty damn low, haven't seen one of these vortex feathers yet. So yeah, basically relying on the thousands of other combat classes running this content to put it up for a reasonable price. Which of course, they won't.

[chidarake]

battle class get mats sell on mb you buy mats make item that the battle classes cant and wish to buy.. hmm circle there I think.

seems fair to me, especially when you can farm the items yourself and they still cant craft them.


the thing about some of theses mats is they are too expensive because the then crafted item is expensive and no one wants to pay that kind of price, like the i95 weapons. very few people have the gil for those.

[Divine_Intervention]

chidarake, i'd seriously disagree. the prices that people have to pay on these things they "can't and wish to buy" are so high because raiders providing the actual mat for it are charging so much for it in the first place. Let's talk about that circle again?