I miss the "dangerous" zone/area we had in 1.0

[Gilthas]

I must have imagined all the fun people were having when we got to Sky and seen the interesting turn of events where you were pretty much not allowed to use magic in most of the zone as you're in arcane heaven, or Al'taieu after beating Tenzen and seen all the new and (at the time) interesting ways monsters aggroed you and reacted to you. Or In ToAU areas where monsters aggroed the mere fact you weaponskilled near them or used a job ability. So you can't really blame me if the people you were around didn't enjoy the creativity that went into the monsters of the game, especially early on in x expansion's life span.

Also it was your choice to use the word "majority" because most people I know complained about still aggroing "low level monsters" once the cap was raised you know, the rest of the post you ignored, but that would have killed your personal attack.

I'm sorry if you find me calling you out on your lies personal attacks, but I'm tired of seeing you repeatedly using misinformation and misdirection to argue bringing back the bad stuff that was in FFXI.

Woohoo, new agro mechanics in new zones. That was "great" the first time we went through the zone, then it was just a chore. And that's the big problem with you guys wanting these areas full of mobs that can easily kill you, the "fun" you experience the first times through ends very fast and all that is left is an area that is a pain to go through.

everybody i know who plays FFXI has some recollection of their trek to Jeuno for the Chocobo license. nobody likes the constant run to Dragon's Aery.

we're not asking for the Third Coil entrance to be put in one of these places as an inconvenience to get to other content.

Then what exactly are you asking for? Because the only way such areas wouldn't be an inconvenience to get to other content is if there's no reason to go to them in the first place.

[SendohJin]

And that's the big problem with you guys wanting these areas full of mobs that can easily kill you, the "fun" you experience the first times through ends very fast and all that is left is an area that is a pain to go through.

that's also why i personally never said these should be transit zones, they should be endpoints like Natalan and Zahar'ak. people only go there when they want to for a purpose, just like people only end up in Lost City for roulette or an Animus Book.

[Nova_Rox]

I generally find XIV to be too easy. I came in from FFXI so I'm used to harder content, dangerous over worlds and having to build bonds with fellow adventurers to overcome obstacles.

None of that is really presnt here :/

Maybe harder content is on the way...but the rest? I can't see it happening.

[subteraneanbird]

Here's a big reason I'm against overworld monsters that can splatter you: Death should be able to teach you something. In low levels you learned pretty quickly what level mobs you could hit and survive, even if they were above you. In dungeons you tend to learn how to play as a group, work on mechanics, aggro, etc etc. What do you learn as a level 50 getting squashed by other level 50 mobs that exist in the overworld solely to murder you? Beyond "Welp, can't ever walk into that area". Because that is a lesson we learned at level 1. I don't think it needs repeating.

[WeiShan]

Tanaka never asked players to teach him how to make fun content,and XI was so memorable & eye-opening.
same as the UO/EQ devs, these MMOs are art.

ARR is hopeless. because Yoshi & the devs they do not have a clear idea about MMO design

[Naberrie]

I would like there to be some danger zones. Right now everything feels too safe. I even walked from Ul'dah to Gridania at level 1 and never once got hit. Was easy. Too easy. The monsters are not exactly monstrous. You hear the aggro sound, hit Sprint and you're fine.

[Aylis]

Personally I would adore nothing more then a little challenge brought to the over world. A happy medium balanced between 1.0 and ARR. With 1.0's over world a little too excessive in places with level 90 monsters and one shot kills. while we were tiny level 50's. Versus ARR's system of just, yeah charging through monsters like running through a field of dandilions. My two gil is I would love having monsters brought up more so I will be challenged, I will have to actively dodge and play my class, I will have to be careful. Unlike now where I can stand perfectly still, mashing one attack and not bothering to dodge attacks because I know they can't kill me and always I win the fight.

[Fendred]

I generally find XIV to be too easy. I came in from FFXI so I'm used to harder content, dangerous over worlds and having to build bonds with fellow adventurers to overcome obstacles.

None of that is really presnt here :/

Maybe harder content is on the way...but the rest? I can't see it happening.

Amen. I came from WoW when it was still in its infancy. Back then we built bonds with others when we were faced with dungeons because you just couldn't do them without knowing people. Over time, we made so many friends that we were able to do forty-man raids like Molten Core. We didn't even care that we wiped or if someone went to eat dinner. It was enough that we were there for one another when we needed it. Syrcus Tower may be stimulating in its appearance and music, but there is no joy in playing with strangers you'll never meet again.

An example of something they could do to get people to group up and know one another would be...
For relic grind: Make the grind so that people gain double credit on everything for working in teams. Maybe if you do a dungeon for a book with other people on the relic quest, the kill counts against the dungeons the other three people have to do. The same might apply to fates, thus letting four group members keep an eye out on different zones to expediate the process.

[Zephyranthes]

I'd agree. The only danger in open world right now is when you accidentally bump solo with a Rank A or Rank S hunt mark.

[Volcano]

Tanaka never asked players to teach him how to make fun content,and XI was so memorable & eye-opening.
same as the UO/EQ devs, these MMOs are art.

ARR is hopeless. because Yoshi & the devs they do not have a clear idea about MMO design

Being hopeless to you is fine, so long as you remember that just because the game is not caterd to your specific needs and wants does not mean devs do not know how to design an MMO< regardless if you realize it or not but the game is doing quite well. so obviously a lot more people don't think the same way. a few people whining "it's not what i want!" is not even going to put a dent in what the game is.


And don't know if you remember (or know at all actually) is that tanaka was quite hated for what he turned FFXI into. i personally did not care as i was already winding out of the game. but most of the feedback for him was not positive.