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    I can play Battlefield 4 multiplayer just fine during this maintenance. Yet i can not log into ff14. So its se decision to do it this way. If it was Sony decision then no game would work. Bad decision from se to need psn to log into the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huntington View Post
    I already have a paid ISP, and a subscription to XIV, needing to pay another fee to play XIV, because for some reason it's connected to PSN, is basically theft. Explain to me why it's valid to need to pay 3 separate things to play one game, when only two of them should be necessary at all.
    Just gonna throw this out there, if you're talking about having to pay the PSN monthly thing in order to play XIV... You don't. I don't pay that and i still play XIV. But maybe i misunderstood you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saccharin View Post
    I really wish competition authorities would look into this considering there's only two console manufacturers and they control the whole system. There must be some antitrust issues here. Microsoft refusing FF14 is one of them surely.
    So MS "refusing" ff14 is now an antitrust issue we need authorities to look at? Believe it or not but it is still legal for console manufacturers to work out deals with publishers (or not).

    As for the larger picture there are three console systems. More would do little to increase competition and cause the games to become even more fractured between systems and increasing cost on developers/publishers....which would obviously be passed on to us as consumers.

    TLDR....service is down a few hours, but we dont need Congress to investigate.
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    TC, you don't need PSN+ to play XIV. You only need regular PSN, which is free. Also, M$ has since become greedy, they were wanting to also make people have their Gold service to play XIV and that was one of the issues along with unique servers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samnas View Post
    but we dont need Congress to investigate.
    lol... like THAT would solve anything. However, this begs the question "which is faster, Congressional accomplishment or PSN maintenance?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychosamm View Post
    Just gonna throw this out there, if you're talking about having to pay the PSN monthly thing in order to play XIV... You don't. I don't pay that and i still play XIV. But maybe i misunderstood you.
    I should have made it more clear. PSN regular to use is free, it's the PS+ that people pay for to get access to free monthly games and other things. My point was that even without paying the monthly, and just using the standard PSN "Silver" account we'll call it, you can still be locked out of XIV because PSN is for some reason still connected to the game.

    Sony's servers aren't used to run XIV, the game is controlled and operated by Square Enix, they have their own servers for it, but if PSN goes down, I still need it to run XIV. Why is this?

    I could see it in the future when they would want us to pay for the PS+, just so they're still making money off of people already paying for another 2 things just to play XIV, of which the fee monthly is going to be likely 100$ or over altogether, currency exchanges not withstanding since that differs based on region. Having PSN connected to it though doesn't make any sense. PSN doesn't go down when SE does maintenance, so why does XIV go down for Playstation users when PSN has maintenance? They should be separate from each other.
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    Last edited by Huntington; 08-29-2014 at 04:17 AM.

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    Sony uses psn for online features. Microsoft uses Xbox live for online features. If this chafes your butt play on PC.
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    Your SE account is connected to your psn account. I think when you registered for your SE game on the playstation it "linked" your account to your PSN account. No working PSN, no way to connect to that linked account.


    Is this the answer you were looking for?
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    Last edited by KyrieBonvalet; 08-29-2014 at 04:27 AM. Reason: dumb grammar
    RIP 2B Butts~~♪♫♪

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    Quote Originally Posted by stuscott View Post
    You don't need PSN to PLAY the game - but if you are using a PS3 or PS4 to play the game, you require PSN to utilize any online features (i.e connecting to SE servers) - it was announced that Sony had rescheduled the maintenance (that was originally scheduled for Monday and was delayed because of the DDoS attack on Sunday) to today. They also stated that as long as you were already logged in before maintenance started, you'd be able to access online features (other than the Store) - they always do this.

    It's not SE's responsibility to notify you of this, as it's not their network that is down.
    and the "able to play if you were still logged in" isnt true on ps4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaero View Post
    Sony uses psn for online features. Microsoft uses Xbox live for online features. If this chafes your butt play on PC.
    Then why other games r not affected by this? This is the problem i gave with it, Battlefield 4 Online multiplayer works Just fine. It's only ff14 that does not work. If other games can give me access then ff14 should also be able to do this.
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