Minstrel's Song from The Rising

[EdwinLi]

Ya the song sounds like it say we may eventually have to fight our way into Ishgard first to defeat the new evil now growing in Ishgard behind their Gates.

It would be interesting if the first step to unlocking Ishgard is to stop the Pope's plan for all out war considering the final step to awakening Zordiak is to make Ishgard go to war.

[WinterSolstice]

Ya the song sounds like it say we may eventually have to fight our way into Ishgard first to defeat the new evil now growing in Ishgard behind their Gates.

It would be interesting if the first step to unlocking Ishgard is to stop the Pope's plan for all out war considering the final step to awakening Zordiak is to make Ishgard go to war.

That would be interesting, but if we go off of speculation and assume what we're getting at is all true, the line "Hope rides to meet what naught can cheat" might very well mean that we try and fail, which leads nicely into Zodiark.

That, coupled with the fact that we have a very strong tendency to do absolutely jack-shit about stopping anything from being summoned. Seriously we just stood there and watched for some of them.

[Fendred]

That would be interesting, but if we go off of speculation and assume what we're getting at is all true, the line "Hope rides to meet what naught can cheat" might very well mean that we try and fail, which leads nicely into Zodiark.

That, coupled with the fact that we have a very strong tendency to do absolutely jack-shit about stopping anything from being summoned. Seriously we just stood there and watched for some of them.

It's a problem made even worse by the EX primals being cannon in the story. The second we saw the first three get resummoned, we should have made countermeasures to deal with future beast tribes attempting to do the same thing. They can make some exceptions for Leviathan since they could just summon him in the depths of the ocean out of our reach, but Ramuh and King Mog are kinda toss ups.

Also, the minstrel's song is just... meh?... after you decipher it. So the hidden message is "You have brought light to the realm, but because you are getting in the way of every big bad's plans, nastier stuff awaits you!" Seriously? You made a cryptic song just to tell us what even our characters' already know? We're at war with an enemy we have yet to defeat. Of course there is going to be a magical arms race!

[EdwinLi]

That would be interesting, but if we go off of speculation and assume what we're getting at is all true, the line "Hope rides to meet what naught can cheat" might very well mean that we try and fail, which leads nicely into Zodiark.

That, coupled with the fact that we have a very strong tendency to do absolutely jack-shit about stopping anything from being summoned. Seriously we just stood there and watched for some of them.

Ya it kind of sucks that no matter how much we feel like we won in the end the Ascians appears and say...



and then reveals that they have a plan B, C, D, E, F, G, and H to make certain their plan still succeeded.

I know they had centuries to planned the resurrection of Zodiark but by the twelve I won't be surprised if they had a back up plan that goes beyond a Plan Z.

the Protagonists of FF14 need a way to one up the Ascians or else the Ascians will always be in their Win/Win situation while we are stuck with a win/lose situation.

[Fendred]

Ya it kind of sucks that no matter how much we feel like we won in the end the Ascians appears and say...



and then reveals that they have a plan B, C, D, E, F, G, and H to make certain their plan still succeeded.

I know they had centuries to planned the resurrection of Zodiark but by the twelve I won't be surprised if they had a back up plan that goes beyond a Plan Z.

the Protagonists of FF14 need a way to one up the Ascians or else the Ascians will always be in their Win/Win situation while we are stuck with a win/lose situation.

What we need to do is unprecedented... stockpile several tons of peyote so that an army of adventurers can partake in the world's largest ever Indian spirit journey for the goal of scouring every corner of the spirit realm for these black cloaked bastards. I can't vouch for our collective sobriety during this procedure or ability to think clearly, so we'll have to make due with our raw numbers. It will be glorious!