Stats Weight and all the maths talk

[Aikaal]

DET is BLMs best stat.

Read up.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...TDVkM1E#gid=50

Not correct. The max det you can get from a 110 weapon is 31 versus 44 for Spellspeed. 44 SS > 31 Det. Also, SS value is higher with Selene which, if you're scholar is good, should be using over Eos with few exception. Hell, 44 Crit > 31 Det. That's unfortunate but it is the way it is.

Unlike other classes however, you don't get punish much by having Det in your gear since it's your lowest stat. Skill Speed is extremely bad on bard if you compare det for BLM.

The only item that is worth having Determination is your Novus because 31 Det > 31 Crit.


EasymodeX's spreadsheet claims Det is worth more than Puro's spreadsheet but I'd like to actually see that spreadsheet which doesn't seem to exist in the Internet.

[Ephier]

Not correct. The max det you can get from a 110 weapon is 31 versus 44 for Spellspeed. 44 SS > 31 Det. Also, SS value is higher with Selene which, if you're scholar is good, should be using over Eos with few exception. Hell, 44 Crit > 31 Det. That's unfortunate but it is the way it is.

Unlike other classes however, you don't get punish much by having Det in your gear since it's your lowest stat. Skill Speed is extremely bad on bard if you compare det for BLM.

The only item that is worth having Determination is your Novus because 31 Det > 31 Crit.


EasymodeX's spreadsheet claims Det is worth more than Puro's spreadsheet but I'd like to actually see that spreadsheet which doesn't seem to exist in the Internet.

I am talking about on a point by point basis. If the situation ever arose where BLM gear had a better distribution of DET, you would all be (or should be) jumping on it.

Also while EMX was not too keen on giving his spreadsheets out, I did trust his work. If you ever browsed around in the 2.0 times, the amount of math that EMX and Powercow laid out was absurd.

[HaroldSaxon]

I am talking about on a point by point basis. If the situation ever arose where BLM gear had a better distribution of DET, you would all be (or should be) jumping on it.

Also while EMX was not too keen on giving his spreadsheets out, I did trust his work. If you ever browsed around in the 2.0 times, the amount of math that EMX and Powercow laid out was absurd.

The problem with EMX was he did a lot of dragoon testing, and then just switched the stats out for the other classes, which is stupid. His datasets were poor and he would accuse people of being racist if they questioned him. I can't say I miss him since he moved to other games, probably suits him.

[Ephier]

The problem with EMX was he did a lot of dragoon testing, and then just switched the stats out for the other classes, which is stupid. His datasets were poor and he would accuse people of being racist if they questioned him. I can't say I miss him since he moved to other games, probably suits him.

Part of that I can agree with, but because I actually knew him in game, I can say that he did switch it up a bit in the end before he switch over games. Now not saying EMX spreadsheets are the almighty answer to stat weights, just saying he put in a decent amount of work into it.

[Aikaal]

Also while EMX was not too keen on giving his spreadsheets out, I did trust his work. If you ever browsed around in the 2.0 times, the amount of math that EMX and Powercow laid out was absurd.

There is a huge problem with that. I don't do these calcs, they would consume me too much time that I am not willing to invest. But I do invest time to see investing on which stat seems to increase my DPS. I value these spreadsheets and I look at Puro's spreadsheet because I am a main BLM. His numbers are there, I,ve tested them and so far, testing them myself, I have to give him right. EMX spreadsheet? None existant, I can't see anything. It just says that Det is the best stat which is not. If you invest that much time to calc stats weights, you need to post to defend your point.