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    Quote Originally Posted by MattyWS View Post
    Aww but I kinda liked walking around with no weapon on in FFXI just to look a little more like a casual explorer.. Granted I suppose being MNK75 meant my fists were my weapons.
    Well maybe they should make it so you turn into a pugilist if you unequip all your weapons.

    Quote Originally Posted by mikefmc View Post
    If you dont like the game, the forum, or the community .. why do you hang around? tbh our community would likely be better without a debbie downer running around saying "oh this sucks lol". go. get out of here.
    I don't run around saying that.

    And I do kind of still like the game even though Yoshi tries his damned hardest to make me hate it.

    Besides, you should be grateful someone around here actually wants stuff. Everyone else here just wants to be boring and grind more levels. (true!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by giftforce View Post
    Well maybe they should make it so you turn into a pugilist if you unequip all your weapons
    Actually I think it's be nice for that to happen, not only that, but more than a couple (or one in some cases) types of weapon per class. I mean I felt and looked awesome walking around with a staff too (staff skill capped for MNK)
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    I mean, just look at how awesome I look :P I want the awesome factor back

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    Quote Originally Posted by giftforce View Post
    And I do kind of still like the game even though Yoshi tries his damned hardest to make me hate it.

    Besides, you should be grateful someone around here actually wants stuff. Everyone else here just wants to be boring and grind more levels. (true!)
    EVERYONE here wants stuff. They just don't want YOUR stuff getting into the game, each for their own reasons I suppose. Just because nobody liked your ideas doesn't mean they don't want things added to this game. I know for a fact MOST people DON'T want to be grinding through it all because that's boring. However, right now grinding is the most effective way to go about it when not doing a Behest. Raptors anyone?

    Also, "Derp" is a very popular term in the recent months/this last year. I'm sure Japan has it's own online memes, so Yoshi used one in a humorous tone and the translators picked Derp as the translation because it IS popular. I know I laughed when I saw it. I didn't look down on Yoshi-P. Sheesh. Honestly, I think the only reason you decided to pick that out of the letter to complain about is because you couldn't find anything else to complain about in the letter. BUT you had to complain about SOMETHIN', so you probably figured you'd might as well make fun of the translators.
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    Insulting people in the counter argument isn't going to change their minds. It will make them stick harder to their opinion regardless of whether or not it's right, and think less of your opinion simply because you insulted them. In essence, if you want to try and change someone's mind, come up with a well thought-out response and don't be a dick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kailok View Post
    EVERYONE here wants stuff. They just don't want YOUR stuff getting into the game, each for their own reasons I suppose. Just because nobody liked your ideas doesn't mean they don't want things added to this game. I know for a fact MOST people DON'T want to be grinding through it all because that's boring. However, right now grinding is the most effective way to go about it when not doing a Behest. Raptors anyone?

    Also, "Derp" is a very popular term in the recent months/this last year. I'm sure Japan has it's own online memes, so Yoshi used one in a humorous tone and the translators picked Derp as the translation because it IS popular. I know I laughed when I saw it. I didn't look down on Yoshi-P. Sheesh. Honestly, I think the only reason you decided to pick that out of the letter to complain about is because you couldn't find anything else to complain about in the letter. BUT you had to complain about SOMETHIN', so you probably figured you'd might as well make fun of the translators.
    A common expression around here used to be "Well I got along just fine in FFXI without [said feature], so there's no reason to implement it."

    It is this kind of mentality which inspired such sentiments within me. From my perspective, it seems like a lot of people would be happy with less rather than more. And their reasoning: "just because". (that's their only reason or something).

    As for the lack of professionalism on Yoshi's part, I was giving him the benefit of the doubt and casting the blame on the translators. But perhaps the fault lies squarely with Yoshi? Derp is such an infantile turn of phrase, hardly befitting to one so powerful and esteemed as Yoshi.

    FFXIV is a very artistic enterprise... and to have it sullied with such asinine verbiage - well, you can scarcely blame me for thinking it inappropriate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by giftforce View Post
    Derp is such an infantile turn of phrase, hardly befitting to one so powerful and esteemed as Yoshi.
    Yes because game development is such a proper and noble profession. One must keep only the highest of moral and maturity standards while developing video games. We can't have anything less than the most professional of developers on all video games.

    And then we have games like Shadow of the Damned which tend to be one giant boner joke while still being a great game. Games like the Saint's Row series don't take themselves that seriously and are pretty awesome. Some of the most fun games out there have been pretty silly, hardly mature and pretty damn funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    Yes because game development is such a proper and noble profession. One must keep only the highest of moral and maturity standards while developing video games. We can't have anything less than the most professional of developers on all video games.

    And then we have games like Shadow of the Damned which tend to be one giant boner joke while still being a great game. Games like the Saint's Row series don't take themselves that seriously and are pretty awesome. Some of the most fun games out there have been pretty silly, hardly mature and pretty damn funny.
    While I can appreciate Yoshi's candour, I am not particularly enamoured with his display of coarseness.

    The demographic for Final Fantasy games is much more intellectual than your average gaming community. That is why we do not have jump or swim. Because such things are beneath us. We also do not need voice-overs, because you see, reading is a higher art form. These low-brow games of which you speak, I never much fancied them to tell you the honest truth, and I dare say I never will. Personally, I shudder to think what will happen to the moral institution that is Final Fantasy if it becomes so corrupted to follow in pursuit of those games for a "quick buck".

    This use of the word 'derp' is a definite departure from the norm, and I would caution we not tread too far down this path.

    It's just not very "Final Fantasy".
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    Quote Originally Posted by giftforce View Post
    A common expression around here used to be "Well I got along just fine in FFXI without [said feature], so there's no reason to implement it."

    It is this kind of mentality which inspired such sentiments within me. From my perspective, it seems like a lot of people would be happy with less rather than more. And their reasoning: "just because". (that's their only reason or something).
    I'm probably speaking on my own behalf but I am sure some will agree with me. I don't think people meant that we are fine without it or having FFXIV be like FFXI. I think at the moment, the way FFXIV is at, it would be nice for a NEWER game to be at least FFXI quality in gameplay and community.. etc. I believe the two upcoming updates (1.18 and 1.19) is getting very close to the same feeling we have with FFXI. Not saying FFXIV should be exactly like FFXI, I'm just talking about feelings and the sense of familiarity. Of course once FFXIV get to where FFXI is at... I am sure everyone is opened up to new implements and features that other MMO have but yet stick with the FF ways that we enjoy most.

    I know how hard it is to pick up someone's work and having to turn it around in a short amount of time with CLIENTS (us players) constantly behind your back wishing to change this and that while you already have a plan.
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