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  1. #1531
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neoxn View Post
    I fed my Kobold Brown chocobo one message's worth of plums and also ended up back with Ink Blue. I'll try your theory by feeding my chocobo one more message's worth of plums and report tomorrow. Hopefully you're right, because this is really frustrating.
    Yeah, believe me, I know exactly how you feel. If I posted my data log in total, you'd probably want to jump out a window due to how many times I've had the chance to hit Soot Black. Since I typed my theory out last, I came up with another equation. I'm testing it and taking another 6 hour+ risk with it, so hopefully I don't screw this up. In any case, if I'm right about my Kobold Brown theory, then I'll have you to thank specifically for proving if it actually works or not. Apologies in advance if I'm wrong. I just don't know what else to do.

    Anyway, the new equation I came up with is for me whom is currently sitting at Ink Blue as I type this. My new equation involves skipping Kobold Brown altogether with. This is my best solution for making the jump via the +5/-5 equation that Noctis Umbra brought to my attention. I still don't know if this is legit or not, but if he got a Soot Black, it's either he was extremely lucky, or he knows what he's talking about.

    Here's the fruits I came up with for making the jump from Ink Blue --> Soot Black (theory equation) (Only "beginning to grow new feathers" fruits count for this to work)

    x2 Cieldalaes Pineapple
    x1 Valfruit
    x1 Doman Plum

    Why did I choose these fruit? I'll explain. As you know from my previous posts, as well as other fellow players in this thread, we've found a loop of Kobold Brown -> Ink Blue -> Kobold Brown -> Ink Blue -> (sometimes) Midnight Blue -> Ink Blue -> Kobold Brown -> ???

    Well, the Pineapple is your ticket from Ink Blue --> Kobold Brown. Tested this twice. Others can back me up on this.
    Secondly, the Plum people keep telling me takes you from Kobold Brown --> Soot Black, are either extremely lucky, smart, or they're not telling me (us) the full story. I tested this and I went straight back to Ink Blue.

    In my equation, putting in the both of these negates one another so you don't get one or the other as a result. Instead, my theory equation should "hopefully" instead re-direct you across to Soot Black by using x1 Valfruit. The reason I use x2 Pineapples and not x1 is because according to Noctis Umbra's equation of using +5/-5, the second Pineapple helps raise Red and Green back into the 30's, and nestles Blue down to the mid 30's as well. I have yet to see anyone claim they got Soot Black from Ink Blue, but I think if someone can get Bark Brown --> Soot Black, then anything has to be in the realm of possibility. If I'm wrong, then at least Neox can test my other theory that I wanted to try out initially. If all else fails... It's back to getting to Deepwood Green from where I am now, or will be eventually, and testing out the Valfruit strategy.

    Here's what my mathematical equation looks like though for anyone that wants a visual learning experience from this to understand where I'm coming from for my idea. I don't know for sure if this will actually work.

    Ink Blue: 22 (R) / 26 (G) / 34 (B)
    Soot Black: 37 (R) / 35 (G) / 30 (B)

    22 + 5 = 27
    26 + 5 = 31
    34 - 5 = 29

    NEXT STEP

    27 - 5 = 22
    31 + 5 = 36
    29 + 5 = 34

    NEXT STEP

    22 + 5 = 27
    36 - 5 = 31
    34 + 5 = 39

    LAST STEP

    27 + 5 = "32"
    31 + 5 = "36"
    39 - 5 = "34"

    Your Score: 32 (R) / 36 (G) / 34 (B)
    Soot Black: 37 (R) / 35 (G) / 30 (B)

    And there you have it. That should get you in the 30's IF the +5/-5 technique actually works, acccording to Noctis Umbra. I've not received results for this but I'm attempting this currently to see if this is correct. Apologies in advance if this is yet another waste of time!
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    Plum Purple took 8 Valfruit to get to Regal Purple
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    You know, I don't have any fancy math, but I did talk to a guy with Soot Black (that qualifies me to chime in right?) In order to get Soot Black he kept feeding deepening fruits, never lightening fruits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonesaurus View Post
    And there you have it. That should get you in the 30's IF the +5/-5 technique actually works, acccording to Noctis Umbra. I've not received results for this but I'm attempting this currently to see if this is correct. Apologies in advance if this is yet another waste of time!
    Please report back here as soon as you find out. I've been in the Ink,Kobold,Deepwood loop trying to get black and currently at Ink. Someone had suggested doing 2x Pineapple and 1x Valfruit, which is what I just did 5 mins ago. It sounds like your 6 hour session will end about 15 minutes before mine so if yours works, I'm gonna try that extra Plum on the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    Soot Black!



    Last color I was at was Bark Brown.

    I worked out on paper what fruits I had to give using +/- 5 points per fruit, and counting only the feeds that give the new feather message.

    From Bark Brown it was 9 Berries, 8 Pears, 6 Apples, 1 Plum.
    i did the same from bark brown, however i ended up at rolanberry red.
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    I tried giving my chocobo only Doman Plumes until the new feathers message appeared once, then stop and wait for 6 hours. This is what I got:

    Desert Yellow + 4 Doman Plumes = Lime Green
    Lime green + 1 Doman Plume = Sylph Green (weirdly enough, Sylph Green should have more red than Lime Green)
    Sylph Green + 7 Doman Plumes = Celeste Green

    I read that someone else got Celeste Green with 28 Doman Plumes, while I used in total just 12 of them, maybe it has something to do with the fact that I waited for each step... or maybe it's just RNG.

    Anyway, my final goal is turquoise green, do you think I should continue with the doman plumes or try something else?
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  7. #1537
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    OK so I didn't wait and I knew I went into the wrong direction with the food lolol

    Soo I'm back at coral pink and I just had to break out the note pad and mathematically plot what I needed to do so that I can reach Soot Black. SO....

    From Coral Pink I did -- Pear, Berries, Plums x7 (new feather messages) Stable in good condition Also in the same 6 hours I did --- Pear, Apple, Berries x7


    basically I did the first series so that I could drop red down and keep blue and green stable. Then once I thought it red was in range, I brought them all down evenly.

    Time will tell but I work all day so.



    My 2nd chocobo was at Ochu Green. SO I used a similar method above to lower green down while keeping the others stable.

    So I did -- Valifruit, Apples, Berries (3/3/3) (new feather messages for all of them)
    and then Pear, Apple, Berries 4/4/4 (new feather messages for all 4 as well)

    Im excited because I REALLY think I have it this time.
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    Last edited by SinisterIsBack; 08-25-2014 at 08:22 PM.

  8. #1538
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    Yesterday I did 4 Apples, 4 Berries and 4 Pears (Aiming for Dalamud Red). I got 8 new feathers messages while feeding. When I checked after the 6 hours, I got no cutscene and colour stayed the same... gutted. I must of managed to cancel each other out.
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  9. #1539
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shyluv View Post
    Thank you very much. I will try this and update how it goes.
    Went back to regal purple. Apples with one feather change might do it?
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  10. #1540
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenguard View Post
    Alright, here's where it gets very tricky and will possible require some tweaking.

    Current: Grape Purple
    52R 26G 34B

    Desired: Soot Black
    37R 35G 30B

    I would personally try:

    x2 Mamook Pear
    x1 O'Ghomoro Berry

    Going off an average that the fruits will give +/-5 (which all I've used in all my past posts for ease of calculations) you should end up around 37R 31G 29B, give or take a few points.
    If you don't receive "plumage color change" message, then we need to analyze were you might be in the dyes "color range".

    Good luck!
    getting a bit closer i think. that ended up giving me currant purple.
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