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    Quote Originally Posted by Syrehn View Post
    No, berries "Deepen" (as in strengthen/raise) BLUE and decrease RED/GREEN.
    Fruits only have one effect, there is no lighten x and darken y and z, y and z appear darker only because you removed x, but their value never got up, otherwise it'd be impossible to get white in multiple feeds like I did since every step would cancel the previous one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phyllo View Post
    Fruits only have one effect, there is no lighten x and darken y and z, y and z appear darker only because you removed x, but their value never got up, otherwise it'd be impossible to get white in multiple feeds like I did since every step would cancel the previous one.
    Unfortunately you are not correct. Please refer to this post before passing on false info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phyllo View Post
    Fruits only have one effect, there is no lighten x and darken y and z, y and z appear darker only because you removed x, but their value never got up, otherwise it'd be impossible to get white in multiple feeds like I did since every step would cancel the previous one.
    Phyllo is correct. This is how it works. Been having very predictable results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phyllo View Post
    Fruits only have one effect, there is no lighten x and darken y and z, y and z appear darker only because you removed x, but their value never got up, otherwise it'd be impossible to get white in multiple feeds like I did since every step would cancel the previous one.
    Quote Originally Posted by Chiral View Post
    Phyllo is correct. This is how it works. Been having very predictable results.
    I wish you to be correct, but alas you are not. I've helped multiple people in this very thread get to the plumage colors by using Syrehn's very detailed explanation along with calculating the values out.

    Each fruit does indeed affect all three color values positively or negatively. It is very much possible to reach every color as well. If you want to reach Black (all values near zero) you would feed a trio of Darkeners (as they subtract two colors while giving a positive boost to the other). Think about it like this:

    Xelphatol Apple: +R -G -B
    Mamook Pear: -R +G -B
    O'Ghomoro Berry: -R -G +B

    Total -2R -2G -2B

    The net result is a mass decrease in values to ALL colors evenly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenguard View Post
    I wish you to be correct, but alas you are not. I've helped multiple people in this very thread get to the plumage colors by using Syrehn's very detailed explanation along with calculating the values out.

    Each fruit does indeed affect all three color values positively or negatively. It is very much possible to reach every color as well. If you want to reach Black (all values near zero) you would feed a trio of Darkeners (as they subtract two colors while giving a positive boost to the other). Think about it like this:

    Xelphatol Apple: +R -G -B
    Mamook Pear: -R +G -B
    O'Ghomoro Berry: -R -G +B

    Total -2R -2G -2B

    The net result is a mass decrease in values to ALL colors evenly.
    The thing is I fed individually instead of giving all the fruits at the same time, which means that one step would negate the previous ones and your example is only valid if you feed every fruit you need at the same time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phyllo View Post
    The thing is I fed individually instead of giving all the fruits at the same time, which means that one step would negate the previous ones and your example is only valid if you feed every fruit you need at the same time.
    That simply does not matter.

    For example, and feed one at a time:

    Feed1: Xelphatol Apple (+R -G -B)
    Result: (+1R -1G -1B)

    Feed2: Mamook Pear (-R +G -B)
    Result: (+0R -0G -2B) This negates the increase in RED and GREEN from the previous Fruit.

    Feed3: O'Ghomoro Berry (-R -G +B)
    Result: (-1R -1G -1B)

    By the third feed, you would have an overall decrease in ALL colors.
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