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    Quote Originally Posted by SinisterIsBack View Post
    ok so if void blue is 14 35 61 -- then I feed him a cpl berries and like 2 pears? destination soot black
    Current Colour: Void Blue
    14R 35G 61B

    Destination Colour: Soot Black
    37R 35G 30B

    You would want to give him a pear but not the berries. Maybe try the following to see if it slides you into Soot Black range:

    x3 Apples
    x2 Pineapple
    x1 Pear


    This should put your end values roughly around 34R, 35G, 31B (assuming +/- 5 average integer) which is almost at Soot Black (might still need a bit more tweaking); RNG is still a factor depending on where you're at in the Void Blue values so mileage may vary.

    P.S: Don't hate me if it doesn't get you Soot Black
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    Last edited by Syrehn; 08-25-2014 at 08:46 AM.

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    Hey.

    Currently my chocobo is Othard Blue: 41 81 130.

    Goal: Soot Black

    Please help!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syrehn View Post
    Current Colour: Void Blue
    14R 35G 61B

    Destination Colour: Soot Black
    37R 35G 30B

    You would want to give him a pear but not the berries. Maybe try the following to see if it slides you into Soot Black range:


    P.S: Don't hate me if it doesn't get you Soot Black
    maybe im not understanding the way it works, Wouldn't giving him berries lower the blue (towards 0) while raising red/grn then give some green to get that back lower while raising red again?

    Either way its done as I gave him 4 berry messages and 2 pear messages before I seen this post. Will let you know results in 4 hours
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    Quote Originally Posted by SinisterIsBack View Post
    maybe im not understanding the way it works, Wouldn't giving him berries lower the blue (towards 0) while raising red/grn then give some green to get that back lower while raising red again?

    Either way its done as I gave him 4 berry messages and 2 pear messages before I seen this post. Will let you know results in 4 hours
    You're confusing the effects of the berries and pineapple, pineapple lightens the blue, berries darken the blue, that's why feeding berry would only bring you further from soot black
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    Quote Originally Posted by SinisterIsBack View Post
    maybe im not understanding the way it works, Wouldn't giving him berries lower the blue (towards 0) while raising red/grn then give some green to get that back lower while raising red again?

    Either way its done as I gave him 4 berry messages and 2 pear messages before I seen this post. Will let you know results in 4 hours
    No, berries "Deepen" (as in strengthen/raise) BLUE and decrease RED/GREEN.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syrehn View Post
    No, berries "Deepen" (as in strengthen/raise) BLUE and decrease RED/GREEN.
    Fruits only have one effect, there is no lighten x and darken y and z, y and z appear darker only because you removed x, but their value never got up, otherwise it'd be impossible to get white in multiple feeds like I did since every step would cancel the previous one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phyllo View Post
    Fruits only have one effect, there is no lighten x and darken y and z, y and z appear darker only because you removed x, but their value never got up, otherwise it'd be impossible to get white in multiple feeds like I did since every step would cancel the previous one.
    Unfortunately you are not correct. Please refer to this post before passing on false info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phyllo View Post
    Fruits only have one effect, there is no lighten x and darken y and z, y and z appear darker only because you removed x, but their value never got up, otherwise it'd be impossible to get white in multiple feeds like I did since every step would cancel the previous one.
    Phyllo is correct. This is how it works. Been having very predictable results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phyllo View Post
    Fruits only have one effect, there is no lighten x and darken y and z, y and z appear darker only because you removed x, but their value never got up, otherwise it'd be impossible to get white in multiple feeds like I did since every step would cancel the previous one.
    Quote Originally Posted by Chiral View Post
    Phyllo is correct. This is how it works. Been having very predictable results.
    I wish you to be correct, but alas you are not. I've helped multiple people in this very thread get to the plumage colors by using Syrehn's very detailed explanation along with calculating the values out.

    Each fruit does indeed affect all three color values positively or negatively. It is very much possible to reach every color as well. If you want to reach Black (all values near zero) you would feed a trio of Darkeners (as they subtract two colors while giving a positive boost to the other). Think about it like this:

    Xelphatol Apple: +R -G -B
    Mamook Pear: -R +G -B
    O'Ghomoro Berry: -R -G +B

    Total -2R -2G -2B

    The net result is a mass decrease in values to ALL colors evenly.
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    Last edited by Ravenguard; 08-25-2014 at 10:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenguard View Post
    I wish you to be correct, but alas you are not. I've helped multiple people in this very thread get to the plumage colors by using Syrehn's very detailed explanation along with calculating the values out.

    Each fruit does indeed affect all three color values positively or negatively. It is very much possible to reach every color as well. If you want to reach Black (all values near zero) you would feed a trio of Darkeners (as they subtract two colors while giving a positive boost to the other). Think about it like this:

    Xelphatol Apple: +R -G -B
    Mamook Pear: -R +G -B
    O'Ghomoro Berry: -R -G +B

    Total -2R -2G -2B

    The net result is a mass decrease in values to ALL colors evenly.
    The thing is I fed individually instead of giving all the fruits at the same time, which means that one step would negate the previous ones and your example is only valid if you feed every fruit you need at the same time.
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