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  1. #1
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    Tetsaru's Avatar
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    Tetsaru Arigashi
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 80
    I'm all for the Crystal Tower style method (do it anytime you want with whoever you want, but only get 1 drop per week), but the problem is people will end up selling runs.

    Honestly, I don't get why it's acceptable for players to sell runs to other players in the first place. There are so many things wrong with it:

    - promotes elitism amongst skilled players

    - less-skilled players get better gear, but still don't learn anything related to the fight or future, more difficult fights and/or how to play their job effectively

    - less-skilled players become encouraged to farm up large amounts of gil solely for clears, possibly resorting to RMT's

    - new content becomes trivialized, people become too focused on wanting to get it over with rather than enjoying the content for what it is, the storyline/lore involved, learning to overcome difficult encounters on their own, etc.

    At the same time though, I'm not sure how exactly SE could counteract this. I know a lot of players prefer to make their gil this way; I just don't agree with it.
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    cryptic_angel's Avatar
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    Ebon Duskfall
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    Cactuar
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    Leatherworker Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Tetsaru View Post
    , I don't get why it's acceptable for players to sell runs to other players in the first place. There are so many things wrong with it:
    - promotes elitism amongst skilled players
    That will exist without sales. High performing players tend to be highly competitive regardless of gil to be made.

    - less-skilled players get better gear, but still don't learn anything related to the fight or future, more difficult fights and/or how to play their job effectively
    Spamming hunts already get you up to ilvl109. I see plenty of poor performing players in close to ilvl110 in complete soldiery gear. Sales only provide the service of different types of gear of the same ilvl.

    - less-skilled players become encouraged to farm up large amounts of gil solely for clears, possibly resorting to RMT's
    Crafting Profession, Material melding for Novus, and vanity gear already encourage RMT quite a bit. Stopping sell runs will not even put a dent in RMT encouraging content.

    - new content becomes trivialized, people become too focused on wanting to get it over with rather than enjoying the content for what it is, the storyline/lore involved, learning to overcome difficult encounters on their own, etc.
    SE already trivializes it's own content. Most players skip over (or only clear once) most of the previous end game content (AK, WP, CM, HM primals) just to rush to the latest content.


    I think your perception of selling runs might be off a little. At least 40% of our business is good players who have cleared the fight before. They are paying for seven players to pass on the loot.
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    Last edited by cryptic_angel; 08-23-2014 at 06:56 PM.

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    ish007xx's Avatar
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    Ish Khan
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    Adamantoise
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    Lancer Lv 70
    lol bring on the gil my team and i already sold 2 weeks of 6-9 only problem i see is that the prices will tank for sales :P
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    Ketsufuma's Avatar
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    Ca'ex Ketsu
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ish007xx View Post
    lol bring on the gil my team and i already sold 2 weeks of 6-9 only problem i see is that the prices will tank for sales :P
    just get off my server =.=

    sure making gil is nice for YOU but those of us who cannot get clear due to others not being capable of doing the fights themselves but have the gear from buying clears, is the reason im so far behind. i cant even find a steady static anymore
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  5. #5
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    SarcasmMisser's Avatar
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    Captnyan Meowpants
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    Tonberry
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ketsufuma View Post
    just get off my server =.=

    sure making gil is nice for YOU but those of us who cannot get clear due to others not being capable of doing the fights themselves but have the gear from buying clears, is the reason im so far behind. i cant even find a steady static anymore
    You should just pay, lots of happy clients on my server too

    It is nice being wealthy, maybe op should pay for carry too.
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    ish007xx's Avatar
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    Ish Khan
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    Adamantoise
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    Lancer Lv 70
    LMAO u blaming us for u "NOT" progressing GG here's a tip if u really want to try and push content y not put in the time and form your own static if u cant find 1. I know its a hard task by itself I know i use to replace pugs everyweek for T1-5 progress till we had the perfect group and from there on it was smooth sailing. My team and I right now are just providing a service to players that (A) Gave on on trying to pug coil and just want loot and clear and (2) Players like crafters who have alot of gil and just want the clear and loot lol. If there are players that will throw out 40-60mil for 6-9 everyweek y should i not try to capitalize on such on goldmine b4 it crashes come 2.4 and t6-9 is on Duty Finder and prices tank lol. Also if u get fed up trying to find a "Static" and u looking to buy hit me up in-game :P....
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