Should rare gear from 1.0 be available to everyone?

[Fluttersnipe]

So... You are for piracy?

One of those extreme examples I enjoy so much. Sure I guess I'm for it in special circumstances. there's tons of digital content that is literally unobtainable by any other means. A couple TV specials that I really want that never went to DVD come to mind, but they're not even available to pirate, so I'm SOL on that. But that's neither here nor there.

[Lexia]

Why shouldn't 1.0 players be distinguished? They played and supported the original game. It's nice as a 1.0 player to be able to spot other 1.0 players every now and then.



Okay if you want to play this game how about they just delete all of the assets they re-used from the original XIV, XIII, XII, and XI entirely as they're not part of this game and don't belong here. :^)

Do you even realize how self-absorbed you sound saying that? I mean come on, do you honestly feel that the people who supported the game for multiple years, who put their faith in SE, should have had all of their progress wiped just so you didn't have to feel sorry for yourself for missing out on something that you chose not to participate in? :^)

That is one of the reason the game was rebuilt with different engine cause the old one sucked and needed a super computer to play it so it not cause people choose not to play it cause they couldn't.

[Yukiko]

Those who were there to get it, have it.

You are talking like everyone had the choise to participate in 1.xx
Its like telling someone: "Oh sorry, you were born 3 years too late!"

Are we talking about days, weeks, months or years?
You act like "everything" will be handed over tomorrow at once...

If I follow your argumentation things like "FFX HD remaster" should not have been made, nor should anyone younger ever play those games - they were not there at that time...

Let me ask you one thing: What weights more: the experience to participate in or the items you get from it?
Do you think no one believes you when you dont have something to show? Even so, why do you care what "others" are thinking?

Edit: With "you" i have not ment Derceto - i just took his posting as example of many others.

[Amberion]

You are talking like everyone had the choise to participate in 1.xx
Its like telling someone: "Oh sorry, you were born 3 years too late!"

When the city I grew up in turned 1000, they gave the children born that year a special coin. My brother got one, yet me who was born 7 years earlier didn't get one. But somehow I don't feel entitled to have one.

[ispano]

When the city I grew up in turned 1000, they gave the children born that year a special coin. My brother got one, yet me who was born 7 years earlier didn't get one. But somehow I don't feel entitled to have one.

Indeed, there's many things in life that you miss out on just because of when you were born.

[Vallug]

Played a little of 1.0 (Wish i got my legacy items V_V) hated it came back with a new account so yeah I would love if they did. Sticking with the mess that was 1.0 isnt justification.

[ispano]

Sticking with the mess that was 1.0 isnt justification.

Actually it is. How about you explain why it isn't?

[Gilraen]

Look, for all the calls for 1.# items what people are missing here is that 90% of them, that is the yearly event items, have since been rereleased in their respective yearly events. The only things that haven't have been items for achievements that can't be repeated for fairly obvious reasons (there's no Dalamud to drop on the world a second time so can't get the Dalamud Horn, there's no Dalamud to pine to for an earring and dated gear... well, noone wanted it in 1.# save for a rare few). Those things that weren't part of the yearly events but were minor events in themselves, like the gobbue mount, got 2.# representations so no real reason to demand that. This just leaves those items that were promotions for having done specific things during specific times in 1.# (like having a concurrent XI subscription for the Hermes Shoes, or having registered for the XIV PS3 Beta using the code provided in first-run XIII copies for the Asuran Armguards, or buying the original game be it normal or Collector's for the first experience buff headgear).

Now, when they did rerelease the gobbue as the Laurel Gobbue I was genuinely happy, it was literally Square answering all the cries during the Beta for the gobbue mount to be released again. It was also the very thing that divided the Legacy and 2.# communities. What else are you missing, now?! You got the swimsuits, yukatas, Christmas sets, New Year's helms, the named armor sets of 1.# were renamed and made drops in the original level 50 dungeons (Explorer's became Hoplite, so on, so forth, and the weapons were added to the Darklight set), etc., etc. What could you possibly be missing?

[ispano]

Look, for all the calls for 1.# items what people are missing here is that 90% of them, that is the yearly event items, have since been rereleased in their respective yearly events. The only things that haven't have been items for achievements that can't be repeated for fairly obvious reasons (there's no Dalamud to drop on the world a second time so can't get the Dalamud Horn, there's no Dalamud to pine to for an earring and dated gear... well, noone wanted it in 1.# save for a rare few). Those things that weren't part of the yearly events but were minor events in themselves, like the gobbue mount, got 2.# representations so no real reason to demand that. This just leaves those items that were promotions for having done specific things during specific times in 1.# (like having a concurrent XI subscription for the Hermes Shoes, or having registered for the XIV PS3 Beta using the code provided in first-run XIII copies for the Asuran Armguards, or buying the original game be it normal or Collector's for the first experience buff headgear).

Now, when they did rerelease the gobbue as the Laurel Gobbue I was genuinely happy, it was literally Square answering all the cries during the Beta for the gobbue mount to be released again. It was also the very thing that divided the Legacy and 2.# communities. What else are you missing, now?! You got the swimsuits, yukatas, Christmas sets, New Year's helms, the named armor sets of 1.# were renamed and made drops in the original level 50 dungeons (Explorer's became Hoplite, so on, so forth, and the weapons were added to the Darklight set), etc., etc. What could you possibly be missing?

The only truly unique items that we got, that I can remember anyhow are things like these(and not all 1.0 players have any given one). Moonlet, Peregrine Helm, White Ravens, Dalamud Horn, Deity Rings, Goobbue(depends who you ask), Legacy Chocobo(If you qualified for Legacy) and of course the pre-order and other such items like the Onion Helm, Garlond Goggles, Asuran Armguards and Hermes Shoes. I may have missed a few, but just about everything else that they said would NOT be obtainable again, are. This is most notable with the Red/Blue/Green/Gold/Silver swimsuits. Yoshi literally said they would not be coming back, but that you could get other varieties and such, but then they went back on that.

So I don't see how it's a problem that we get to keep the few exclusive items we DO have, exclusive.

[Gramul]

I missed out on the White Ravens and horn, but I don't think I'm entitled to another chance at them. I had my shot and I didn't go for it.

I believe MMO'S should have genuinely unique items that can't be obtained anymore. It gives committed players more reason to be engaged.

I would be alright with recolors or tweaked designs I guess, but there's absolutely nothing wrong with having limited items for the people that bothered to get them. There's nothing wrong with uniqueness. At least not in that sense.