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  1. #11
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    Kaethra Tatrinae
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamesmart View Post
    Again, S ranks weren't designed for 500 people to come and beat it up - the notes of the hotfix that did increase HP stated that S ranks were intended for roughly an alliance. Missed the mark? Wait for the next one.
    The problem normally isn't missing the mark. The problem is so many people down the mobs so fast that you get little or no credit, especially depending on the class you are playing. I could hit 12 marks in a day and have only 4 seals to show for it. With higher HP, you have more time to get a decent contribution (like with FATEs). I think that is the problem many are having.

    Missing mobs don't bother me. I played Everquest 1 and 2. The idea of sharing mobs has been an alien concept to me, which is why I just don't understand the drama behind hunts. I'm used to first come first serve.
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    Marcus Deston
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaethra View Post
    The problem normally isn't missing the mark. The problem is so many people down the mobs so fast that you get little or no credit, especially depending on the class you are playing. I could hit 12 marks in a day and have only 4 seals to show for it. With higher HP, you have more time to get a decent contribution (like with FATEs). I think that is the problem many are having.

    Missing mobs don't bother me. I played Everquest 1 and 2. The idea of sharing mobs has been an alien concept to me, which is why I just don't understand the drama behind hunts. I'm used to first come first serve.
    The problem is, someone's always going to get only partial credit, no matter how much health the mark has, and someone's always going to complain. Adjusting the HP of the marks isn't going to change that - and when the hunt hype dies off and the marks have an obscene amount of health, who's going to come help? That kind of HP adjustment is what killed FATE grinding to a certain extent - too many people did it last time, now the mobs have too much health when nobody's doing it.
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaethra View Post
    The problem normally isn't missing the mark. The problem is so many people down the mobs so fast that you get little or no credit, especially depending on the class you are playing.
    Go as a White Mage, Paladin, or Warrior. Going as a Scholar or a DPS class is just kind of asking to get minimum credit.

    If more people would hunt as tanks or healers, the mobs would die more slowly with no intervention from SE. :3

    Quote Originally Posted by gamesmart View Post
    The problem is, someone's always going to get only partial credit, no matter how much health the mark has, and someone's always going to complain. Adjusting the HP of the marks isn't going to change that - and when the hunt hype dies off and the marks have an obscene amount of health, who's going to come help?
    This. No matter how many hp it has, it has a finite number of them so only a finite number of people can get full credit.
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  4. #14
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    Kaethra Tatrinae
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    Go as a White Mage, Paladin, or Warrior. Going as a Scholar or a DPS class is just kind of asking to get minimum credit.

    If more people would hunt as tanks or healers, the mobs would die more slowly with no intervention from SE. :3
    I do go as a White Mage. Same results no matter how much healing or damage I put out. But the real issue I have is I -could- get full credit if I tagged the mob and then invited people to my group. The issue is the drama that ensues afterwards. That's the real issue I have with the hunts. But I can't convince everyone that these things ought to be competitive in nature.

    Instead I'm -supposed- to wait to get a few measly seals so everyone can get -some- credit. Which is why I support the method of tagging it first and locking it. I'd get a ton more seals that way.
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    Mykll Valiant
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    Do the same with A and S that they did with B. Remove the 2 Fates in the dailies, have Bs take those place, and each week you mostly get A, sometimes the rare S. That stops this zerg horde mentality, and everyone can go back to DF and everything else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaethra View Post
    I do go as a White Mage. Same results no matter how much healing or damage I put out. But the real issue I have is I -could- get full credit if I tagged the mob and then invited people to my group. The issue is the drama that ensues afterwards. That's the real issue I have with the hunts. But I can't convince everyone that these things ought to be competitive in nature.

    Instead I'm -supposed- to wait to get a few measly seals so everyone can get -some- credit. Which is why I support the method of tagging it first and locking it. I'd get a ton more seals that way.
    Wait... you're going solo and wanting to tag A rank and S rank mobs on your own? I'm confused now.
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    Carde Graves
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    Well if they didn't intend for 500 people to mob them, they shouldn't have made them so damn valuable. All I know is before Tuesday I had absolutely no trouble hunting, I had hundreds of seals in excess after buying all of my oils, sands, etc. Now I haven't gotten full credit on a single A or S mark since then and its annoying the hell out of me.
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  8. #18
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    S's disappear a lot too, maybe they should put in the odin and behemoth changes so they are always visible.
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    Sylphia May
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    Make S ranks like Odin. Players get massacred a lot, then don't get any credit because it dies before they return. Make it actually HARD. Sure the QQers will QQ more, but we treat that as side entertainment.
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    Melfina Amastacia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    S's disappear a lot too, maybe they should put in the odin and behemoth changes so they are always visible.
    They did. The people killing them are far more than i've ever seen at an Odin or Behemoth. Plus them vanishing isn't a graphics issue like some like to think either.
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