Chocobo dyeing R&D Thread - Post your results here!

[Sadana]

I just wanna say this thread is so much fun! I've just stayed on it all day and kept clicking refresh. XD

[Sayori]

Nice. I did the same, but did 30/15/15 So I will see if I get a darker one.

same, i did 25/10/10. Will post results here in 2½h

[Enjou]

Put my bird in for another 6 hours w/5 Apples, not touching this time until the timer is up , I got the message about growing new feathers on the first feed.

[Nyalia]

I'm actually a little torn, but I think I am going to mess with it to try and get Celeste Green.

I'm going to guess that I need to lighten red one more, darken green one more, and darken blue a few more times. Time to grow the fruit and test it!

Well, if the RGB values I'm looking at are correct, the only real difference between Apple Green and Celest Green is that Celest Green has a ton more Blue. To raise just the value of blue, I think you want to lighten green, lighten red, and darken blue. I would do like, 4 of each and see what happens?

Also, remember that someone got Celest Green by doing 28 lighten reds and nothing else. That pushed up the value of blue a ton (because it was very low), the green some (because it was already really high), and lowered the red a bit.

[LyricalMelody]

5 Valfruit (lighten green) gave Salmon Pink



Desert Yellow + 5 Valfruit (New Feathers message) = Salmon Pink
Salmon Pink + 2 Valfruit (New Feathers message) = ? (waiting)

[JakzChurchill]

Did some maths for the two colours created using only O'Ghomaro Berries (Deepen Blue) as it was a good constant from the spreadsheet. And all it does it makes working out the movement a lot harder.

First we have Gobbiebag Brown, created using 11 berries to get a total change of [-36,-17,+50] This means each feed was worth [-3.2, -1.5, 4.5]

Now we know there isn't a cap because the Raptor Blue has been created using 21 Berries for a total of [-132, -55, +108] Making each feed worth [-12, -5, 9.8]

So all of a sudden the food has become worth more as you add more in one go. Does this mean the more you put into one go the higher return you get from it?

[Yamimarik]

Well this is not what I had in mind lol, hopefully when I get more blue fruits to grow, I can get it purple! (Shared the rest of my blues with FC mate). So here is Blood Red, took 14x Valfruit, 14x O'Ghomoro Berries, and 14x Xelphatol Apples in this order. I did 1 of each in a row till 14 had been used.

[zegota]

Some of these results seem very odd. Has anyone tried replicating someone else's feed, but in a different order? I wonder if people are hitting some sort of cap, or there's some randomness involved.

[ZReport]

Did some maths for the two colours created using only O'Ghomaro Berries (Deepen Blue) as it was a good constant from the spreadsheet. And all it does it makes working out the movement a lot harder.

First we have Gobbiebag Brown, created using 11 berries to get a total change of [-36,-17,+50] This means each feed was worth [-3.2, -1.5, 4.5]

Now we know there isn't a cap because the Raptor Blue has been created using 21 Berries for a total of [-132, -55, +108] Making each feed worth [-12, -5, 9.8]

So all of a sudden the food has become worth more as you add more in one go. Does this mean the more you put into one go the higher return you get from it?

I actually did this exact same math and came to the same conclusion. It doesn't add up. I think it might be more basic than adding/subtracting RGB values. I have a feeling that feeding a specific fruit sets you on the specific color scale of the dye that's currently in game. From there, further feeds raises or lowers your color on the same scale. I also have a feeling the color change doesn't take effect until you get a "starts to grow new feathers" message.

[Damifino]

I think we also need to consider whether people are taking those color samples from the "examine" window, or standing out in the sun, or in the dark. It's near impossible to determine actual RGB value results when there's not a common lighting arrangement.


One thing is obvious, the examine window looks nothing like the color when the bird is out in the sun, or at night either for that matter. Also, measuring it in the shade of a stables will produce a wholly different picture.

We really need to agree on a common lighting scenario, and preferably one not involving the examine window.

Science is king, yes, but we need controls to determine results.