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    It seems to be working out like this:

    deepens red = increases red
    lightens red = increases cyan

    deepens green = increases green
    lightens green = increases magenta

    deepens blue = increases blue
    lightens blue = increases yellow

    Regal Purple was produced by deepening red and blue and lightening green aka +red +blue +magenta
    Celeste Green was produced by lightening red aka +cyan
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    Quote Originally Posted by liev View Post
    It seems to be working out like this:

    deepens red = increases red
    lightens red = increases cyan

    deepens green = increases green
    lightens green = increases magenta

    deepens blue = increases blue
    lightens blue = increases yellow

    Regal Purple was produced by deepening red and blue and lightening green aka +red +blue +magenta
    Celeste Green was produced by lightening red aka +cyan
    See, this makes the most sense, and is what I was playing with before (though I kept it in the RGB form), but there are a few examples that just don't match, or even close to match. It seems to work so well for most things, but a few outliers keep throwing me off.
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    These results all changing my test!

    Currently At
    1 Mamook Pear
    18 Apples
    2 Plums
    10 Pineapples
    13 Valfruit
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    It's likely that saturation could be important. The fact that we have 2 types of fruits for each let me think that way. It's just a supposition but maybe Lightnen fruit lowers the saturation while Deepen increases it.
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    From what I've observed, for white, I would expect something like this:
    20 Plums, 15 Valfruits would get close
    30 Plums, 20 Valfruits, 10 Pineapples might be closer to what you need

    From what I've seen reported, "lightens" means "increases the RGB values of the OTHER two colors while keeping this color fairly steady (or reducing it slightly)" and "darkens" means "reduce the RGB values of the OTHER two colors while slightly increasing this color's RGB value." So, since you start with tons of red, slightly less green, and low blue, pumping plums first will shoot the blue up, increase the green slightly, and reduce the red a bit. This gives too much green relative to the other colors. Throwing in Valfruits next will push the red value back up while mitigating the high green value a bit. Blue will be the highest after that, so some Pineapples should equalize the colors a bit. That should be close to white, but my numbers are obviously randomly chosen. Not enough data to get actual values yet.

    This means, for black, if I'm right, you want tons of darkens. First, you want to darken blue, but if you just darken blue, you'll get tons more blue mixed in. So, to compensate, you need to darken the other two colors as well. The darkest color we've found so far here is Royal Purple, obtained by darkening red and blue and lightening green. If you'll notice, this resulted in massively decreased red and green, but with blue not really moving. If my theory is right, then if the Valfruits were left out, it would have wound up with a much lower value for blue and red and be closer to black.

    So, for black, perhaps something like this:
    20 Berries, 10 Apples, 10 Pears should get you in the right direction
    30 Berries, 15 Apples, 15 Pears might be closer to what you need

    These are just guesses, obviously.
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    (The links below are sadly outdated. I hope to get around to updating things at some point.)
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    Question though, when people are saying they fed them 30x one fruit + more, is that within the 1 6hr wait time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ecks007 View Post
    Question though, when people are saying they fed them 30x one fruit + more, is that within the 1 6hr wait time?
    Yes. There hasn't been enough time for more than one feeding to finish yet, I think.
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    Fed mine a lot of lighten blue and red, and 6 darken greens. So mine will probably turn out some shade of blue or green? Will see in about 5 hours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shyluv View Post
    Fed mine a lot of lighten blue and red, and 6 darken greens. So mine will probably turn out some shade of blue or green? Will see in about 5 hours.
    If I'm right in how this works, you start out with a bunch of red and green and little blue. Lots of lighten blue and red will max out green while keeping blue and red kinda average (much more red than blue though). Then, darkening the green a bit will cut a chunk out of the blue and red, resulting in very high green, very low blue, and fairly low red. I'd expect the result, therefore, to be something like Apple Green, Cactaur Green, or Meadow Green. Let's see what the results are!
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    (The links below are sadly outdated. I hope to get around to updating things at some point.)
    Desynthesis Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivdesynth

    Airship Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipguide (\v/) Airship Quick Reference: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipqr
    Airship Logsheet: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshiplog (/|\) Airship Builder Tool: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipbuilder

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    FCmate fed 21 O'ghomoro Berries, got Raptor Blue. Didn't take a screenshot, but I can confirm. Saw in person.
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