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  1. #241
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    Bloodred Chocobo

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikuHatsune View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruiser_Cruiser View Post
    Im sry if im mistaken but i think you have this backwards. They absence of color is white. The mixture of all colors together should produce black. I could be wrong but from what i remember in art class haha...
    Your wrong on the RGB scale but right on the CMYK. RGB is based on light so the less light you have the darker no light is black (Or at least how our eyes perceive it) CMYK would be inks (more in line with physical art) so the more you add the deeper the color but if you add everything you get black as it is the deepest (Most absorbing of light). The running assumption is RGB scale for the choco which is why the semantic of lighten and deepen are part of the argument because it really changes how you look at the numerical value.
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    From what I've observed, for white, I would expect something like this:
    20 Plums, 15 Valfruits would get close
    30 Plums, 20 Valfruits, 10 Pineapples might be closer to what you need

    From what I've seen reported, "lightens" means "increases the RGB values of the OTHER two colors while keeping this color fairly steady (or reducing it slightly)" and "darkens" means "reduce the RGB values of the OTHER two colors while slightly increasing this color's RGB value." So, since you start with tons of red, slightly less green, and low blue, pumping plums first will shoot the blue up, increase the green slightly, and reduce the red a bit. This gives too much green relative to the other colors. Throwing in Valfruits next will push the red value back up while mitigating the high green value a bit. Blue will be the highest after that, so some Pineapples should equalize the colors a bit. That should be close to white, but my numbers are obviously randomly chosen. Not enough data to get actual values yet.

    This means, for black, if I'm right, you want tons of darkens. First, you want to darken blue, but if you just darken blue, you'll get tons more blue mixed in. So, to compensate, you need to darken the other two colors as well. The darkest color we've found so far here is Royal Purple, obtained by darkening red and blue and lightening green. If you'll notice, this resulted in massively decreased red and green, but with blue not really moving. If my theory is right, then if the Valfruits were left out, it would have wound up with a much lower value for blue and red and be closer to black.

    So, for black, perhaps something like this:
    20 Berries, 10 Apples, 10 Pears should get you in the right direction
    30 Berries, 15 Apples, 15 Pears might be closer to what you need

    These are just guesses, obviously.
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    Question though, when people are saying they fed them 30x one fruit + more, is that within the 1 6hr wait time?
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  6. #246
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruiser_Cruiser View Post
    Im sry if im mistaken but i think you have this backwards. They absence of color is white. The mixture of all colors together should produce black. I could be wrong but from what i remember in art class haha...

    What you are remembering is perhaps the combos with paint.
    However, our chocobo dyes is not based on that, but on the theory of Light itself, which is different from mixing with paint.
    You understand that the Rainbow is from light right? That's because, light (white) is a combo of all the colors of the rainbow.
    Thus white is actually all the colors combined, while Black is the lack of color.
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    Last edited by dragonflie; 08-22-2014 at 03:59 AM.
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  7. #247
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ecks007 View Post
    Question though, when people are saying they fed them 30x one fruit + more, is that within the 1 6hr wait time?
    Yes. There hasn't been enough time for more than one feeding to finish yet, I think.
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    Fed mine a lot of lighten blue and red, and 6 darken greens. So mine will probably turn out some shade of blue or green? Will see in about 5 hours.
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    FCmate fed 21 O'ghomoro Berries, got Raptor Blue. Didn't take a screenshot, but I can confirm. Saw in person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Endemerrin View Post
    FCmate fed 21 O'ghomoro Berries, got Raptor Blue. Didn't take a screenshot, but I can confirm. Saw in person.
    Is that all he fed? Cause i will attempt to recreate those conditions tonight see if i can get the same results or if something else is also effecting how the colour changes.
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