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    LOL, bards are definitely not weak and measly. I play all roles in Frontlines, and I enjoy bard most. I've killed skilled healers and tanks myself on bard, not to mention casters, dragoons and monks. I've also been killed my fair share of times as well.

    While the OP may not think it's fair for bards to be able to move and interrupt, bards do do less damage per attack than casters. Plus, bards don't have the ability to stun or sleep every 10 seconds. Not to mention, if you need to run fast, your TP is immediately drained to 0. I think those are some pretty fair trade offs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post

    While the OP may not think it's fair for bards to be able to move and interrupt, bards do do less damage per attack than casters.
    Not really.. firstly casters do have lots less HP... secondly arrow attacks are instant while a caster has to stand still and cast for about 3 secs (brds can do about 2 arrows in that time). im talking about 1vs1 here. then its "rupt rupt" for most of the time. of course i use swift cast etc.. and scathe is not more powerful than an arrow (100 dmg potency vs heavy shot 150 dmg potency)... + we have less HP and will most likely die faster.

    of course i also killed bards in 1vs1... but i dont have the feeling that this is really balanced.. because it mostly takes you all of your special abillities (even pvp) in order to do so (100% unruptable buff, swift cast etc.).. which i think.. cant be..


    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemight View Post
    Casters don't get to trigger happy because of Bard
    Bards don't get to trigger happy because of Meele.
    Meeles don't get to trigger happy because of Caster
    not really..

    bard sees melee -> starts shooting/running... -> if he is getting to close -> shadowbind.

    melees deal with problems like "out of range, out of range".. when the target is running away. brd does not have these probs.
    i dont see why a brd should be afraid of a melee more, than an other archer..

    and when melee chars get close to casters they shouldnt fear them either.
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    Last edited by Tonkra; 08-22-2014 at 02:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    Im talking about 1vs1 here.
    There is nothing to talk about if you want to overpower Bard in 1 v 1 isnt it? No PvP is balance at 1 v 1. Bard always lost to MNK and DRG in 1 v 1. If a MNK cant handle a Bard in 1 v 1, it is the player issue. Trust me, both MNK and DRG have enough gap closers to shut down the Bard. I can provide you serveral videos to show it if you need it.

    Of course you are ok with the meeles, because the caster are their counter.
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    Last edited by Divinemight; 08-22-2014 at 03:28 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemight View Post
    Of course you are ok with the meeles, because the caster are their counter.
    What stops a MNK or DRG from destroying a caster as opposed to a BRD? I used to be able to sometimes fend myself against melee as SMN if I decided to duke it out instead of bind and run. Now though, not nearly as often. BLM has weight effect which would help tons if it weren't for Jump and Shoulder Tackle lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    and scathe is not more powerful than an arrow (100 dmg potency vs heavy shot 150 dmg potency).
    and i thought that brd's 60 potency is less then scathes 100
    hint: just stay at meele range :P
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