BRD vs Caster

[Divinemight]

Im talking about 1vs1 here.

There is nothing to talk about if you want to overpower Bard in 1 v 1 isnt it? No PvP is balance at 1 v 1. Bard always lost to MNK and DRG in 1 v 1. If a MNK cant handle a Bard in 1 v 1, it is the player issue. Trust me, both MNK and DRG have enough gap closers to shut down the Bard. I can provide you serveral videos to show it if you need it.

Of course you are ok with the meeles, because the caster are their counter.

[Maero]

naw u died many times from smns because 1) your healer didn't heal you/didn't heal you enough or 2) you ran after the smn and didn't stick around your healer so you left it open season for him to merk u. all dps are squishy in this game. even a healer can take out a solo brd. i can't see a brd out-dpsing a smn tho simply because of the pet+rouse+Fester+Enkindle+ROFL combo. you have to remember, a smn can heal himself, you can't. so don't put yourself in a bad situation.

Well that has been a problem going in with random people, adder just has not been organized, like all over the place and yeah more then likely it was because of a whm healing them as well perhaps.
As far as melee trump in pvp, maybe so but all the instances i have done against monk or drg say otherwise, only time i truly do loose is if someone from their team would stun lock me. That or perhaps they did not know their class, who knows. I just go in as what i prefer for pvp and that's that. I do have blm, smn and drg i can try as well

[Tonkra]

naw u died many times from smns because 1) your healer didn't heal you/didn't heal you enough or 2) you ran after the smn and didn't stick around your healer so you left it open season for him to merk u. all dps are squishy in this game. even a healer can take out a solo brd. i can't see a brd out-dpsing a smn tho simply because of the pet+rouse+Fester+Enkindle+ROFL combo. you have to remember, a smn can heal himself, you can't. so don't put yourself in a bad situation.

a smn cant heal (with his sucky physic) while you are shooting at him.. b he just makes some decent damage, if you have eaten all dots before.

[FoxNoir]

When I do frontlines on bard I tend to have more trouble with summoners and healers 1v1. I would have to say my success is much better against black mages though. On melee, kind of depends where our respective cool downs are.

Don't forget that bards have a pretty useless limit break for pvp.

[RinL]

Why not just remove full interrupts on damage entirely?

I just reached 50 (my first, WHM), and I am incredibly dissapointed with how PvP handles for casters. I understand we have abilities like Swiftcast, and equanimity. That is not enough though. If any single physical damage dealer decides to jump on a WHM they win. Period.

This is the first game mechanic that I feel the Dev team went full retard on. This blows my mind, considering Yoshi. P was a big PvPer.

Why did we not just use the usual pushback mechanic? Take damage, pushes back your cast time making the spell last longer. Can still interrupt, just have to use stuns/skills that shut someone down.

Thoughts?

[Rydia13]

I agree. Instead of getting interrupted after getting hit, it should slow your cast or reduce the damage of that spell. As BLM, I HATE Brds on me lol as SMN though, Brds are cake. Swiftcast Bio2, Bio, Egi, then drop Virus on em, with Misty Veil to reduce their range, and basically spam Energy Drain for Damage+Heals, Ruin2 and just draw it out lol

While yes melee do need to be up close to do damage, Shoulder Tackle and Jump really do help alleviate that issue. Ever since update I find it increasingly difficult to best melee if I get caught off guard. They are on you too soon with those abilities for you to make any proper distance to safely DPS, and now their damage is nuts lol.

While we're on the subject, it really sucks that SMN is the only job without any personal defensive buff, excluding Titan lol. It'd be nice to have an ability that directs all attacks aimed at the SMN onto Titan or something similar for say 10 seconds? I'm down for that.

[Sessurea]

Bards are noob friendly, casters aren't.

[Rydia13]

Of course you are ok with the meeles, because the caster are their counter.

What stops a MNK or DRG from destroying a caster as opposed to a BRD? I used to be able to sometimes fend myself against melee as SMN if I decided to duke it out instead of bind and run. Now though, not nearly as often. BLM has weight effect which would help tons if it weren't for Jump and Shoulder Tackle lol

[ExKage]

I'm trying to ask since apparently people know how to play casters/BLM better than I do in Wolves' Den / Frontlines.

But how is a BLM supposed to not get wrecked by a bard / melee dps?

[Zyphione]

But how is a BLM supposed to not get wrecked by a bard / melee dps?

PvP in this game is widely based on the team itself unless you are considering people who superhero themselves into the enemy army. Black mages are a very dangerous threat if they can not be interrupted and require help from healers, just as healers require 'peels' or people to pull others off them in order to allow them to support the party.