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  1. #51
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    Vandril's Avatar
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    Ter'vin Valash
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    Diabolos
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    Ninja Lv 70
    If World PvP were to become a thing, I agree somewhat with both of you above. Ganking in and of itself, alongside the current system of "raise at the saved aetheryte", would make ganking a very low-risk activity. What I would like to see is something akin to what Divine also mentioned, a "PKer" or "Red" player status upon ganking a non-red player. Many other MMOs have this - some call it the "Outlaw" system, for example. However, a jail system is just stupid. That would only annoy players that try to partake in a theoretical-then valid part of the game. MMO Jail systems are generally put in place for cheaters and hackers when it comes to MMOs, if the MMO decides to do that rather than just ban the player's account. This is not a fair "punishment" for loss in a valid game feature such as would be World PvP. Anyway, I think a fair level of risk for Red players would be that, for every target they kill in a given day (week?), their notoriety rises, and a bounty on their head rises accordingly. Every time a player with a bounty is slain, those who partake in the slaying get a cut of the bounty. Maybe it resets when they're killed? Naturally, the "red" status would be visible but not active when in safe zones such as the cities and towns. To avoid "town border gank-and-runs", they could even make it so the status does not disable in towns if you've killed a player within 60 seconds prior to entering the town. I don't know, but all of the details could be worked out.

    This would make World PvP an in-depth and risky, but fun, activity. This would also add a sense of being a "defender" or "anti-ganker" or "pkker" to the world by giving people a niche to fill which would be that of taking out the reds.

    I don't actively support World PvP, but neither do I actively condemn it. Not for FFXIV, anyway. It could be implemented, and it could be implemented in a way that is meaningful and fun. Likewise, it could just as easily be implemented in a way that it terribly disheartening and only open up the open world to ganking and griefing. If it's done right, I want it. But rather than having it done wrong, I'd instead want it to stay out of the game. It all depends on how they want to do it, if they decide to do it.
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  2. #52
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    MonteCristo's Avatar
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    Lamonte Cristo
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Bump i have friends that wanna play this game for an open pvp server alone. PLEASE READ YOSHI!!!
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  3. #53
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    Denarius Jay
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    Ultros
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    YES, for the love of God add open-world PvP. I know this may come as surprise to some of you, but not all of us enjoy logging in, hoping on the hamster wheel for a few hours to get some gold tickets, just to turn them in for a new pair of slippers so that I can kill that boss that I've already killed 100 times 1 second faster. UGH. If it weren't for the fact that I really like the story and lore of this game (and graphics, really nice graphics!), I wouldn't be an active sub. But open world pvp would definitely keep me interested for long haul because that is user generated content.

    Adding some world-pvp is a much needed break from the total PvE grindfest this game is. OPen world pvp creates Drama, politics, reputation, rivalries, gankers and savers, etc. adding world-pvp will for once allow the players to generate there own content and storyline and let the game breath alittle. And for the carebears that don't want it, its simple - don't go into world pvp. Stay in DF trying to get new wizard hats to glamour.
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    Last edited by DenariusJay; 08-21-2014 at 06:59 PM.

  4. #54
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    Zanctus Aelphm
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    Quote Originally Posted by DenariusJay View Post
    Open world pvp creates Drama, politics, reputation, rivalries, gankers and savers, etc. adding world-pvp will for once allow the players to generate there own content and storyline and let the game breath alittle. And for the carebears that don't want it, its simple - don't go into world pvp. Stay in DF trying to get new wizard hats to glamour.
    This. The type of community that some of us would agree adds to a more visceral interactive experience with other players. To be famous/infamous, helping your fellow adventurer would take on a whole new meaning, against 'rogue' players. Not everyone's a fan of the lalafell petting.
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  5. #55
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    K'atya Jhamei
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanctus View Post
    This. The type of community that some of us would agree adds to a more visceral interactive experience with other players. To be famous/infamous, helping your fellow adventurer would take on a whole new meaning, against 'rogue' players. Not everyone's a fan of the lalafell petting.
    On Frostwolf server in WoW (around 2007 or so), there was this undead rogue named Lilbuddy who spent his whole day ganking people in the Storm Peaks. He was notorius. If you traveled alone you were likely to die several times. And if you logged in at a certain time you could expect to find Lilbuddy hunting parties - people would run around the lake and spam AoE until they knocked him out of stealth and camped him. It was probably the most fun I've had in non-instanced content.
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  6. #56
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    Saviour Divinemight
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    Leviathan
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    Archer Lv 60
    I really think Open World PvP is too much to ask at this point of game. You might have better chance to ask Yoship to allow duel in Wolf Den Pier since it is already a PvP zone in 2.28.
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  7. #57
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    Eternity Godslayer
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    Phoenix
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    Warrior Lv 60
    Yes please! just make a separate server for open world pvp! this not will hurt the community ;D
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  8. #58
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    Caeleste Pugnator
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    YES PLEASE!!! this game just need one OPEN PVP SERVER and will by the perfect game of WORLD!!!!
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  9. #59
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    Jaguar Paw
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    Mateus
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    Gladiator Lv 37
    YES !! For a pvp server. or pvp area warning off carebears.

    1. Despite the Final Fantasy being an all out fantasy PvE franchise we are indeed in 2014. Every MMO offers pvp, even FFXIV ventured into it with the Wolves Den and Frontlines. WD failed because horrified carebears and others complained their little hearts out when fighting the pvp geared gamers. so Morale got canned to warrant Frontlines popularity. not cool, but allright, give us a server where we can beat the crap out of each other in pvp gear. Some of us got the urge to pvp and like the Final Fantasy franchise at the same time.

    2. Money! open world pvp or a dedicated server and FFXIV will make big $.. I used to have 4 accounts (family) that's $60 per month. once morale got canned for Frontlines I cancelled all 4. So my cancellation would have brought $720/yr or $7,200 in 10 yrs to the game. but say 100k people worldwide embrace open world pvp... $720 million in 10 yrs. I mean pvp gear used for glamour nowdays lol
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  10. #60
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    Denarius Jay
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    Ultros
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    A PVP area/zone that you load into would probably be the most logical and quickest fix. I don't really see them opening up an entire server just for pvp. One area, something similar to Central Shroud, full of hills, trees, waterfalls, rivers, etc. lots of places to hide, also for a fun twist throw in a couple of fates to lure people in And let the community have at it. It doesn't have to be anything epic or some monster area with loads of content, it just needs to be something different then from the everyday Duty finder/QUE-pvp (ugh!) People are complaining about LONG ques, this is a great alternative for those that don't want gear or any reward, they just wanna go somewhere and try and start a fight.
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