SMN BIS 2.3

[Judge_Xero]

Hmm, for funsies.

How's this for BiS then?

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/NKS4

You would lose the equivalent of 36 INT from stats, but gain the equivalent of ~26 INT from DET. So would your DOT rotation see a significant enough boost to warrant the 10 INT loss from big spells. (didn't include SPD in the weights)

[Havenchild]

Hmm, for funsies.

How's this for BiS then?

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/NKS4

You would lose the equivalent of 36 INT from stats, but gain the equivalent of ~26 INT from DET. So would your DOT rotation see a significant enough boost to warrant the 10 INT loss from big spells. (didn't include SPD in the weights)

I wouldn't sacrifice that much Int for DET but you would probably get outdone by a build with 2 less INT from cap.

Dwill posted an interesting DET build, I'm curious to try.

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/NGQV

[RinchanNau]

I wouldn't sacrifice that much Int for DET but you would probably get outdone by a build with 2 less INT from cap.

Dwill posted an interesting DET build, I'm curious to try.

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/NGQV

I won't be trying that as I've yet to collect a single atma. But I am interested in trying that build w/ HA book vs this build. http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/NKDF According to Ariyala's weights this build is very slightly better. But if his spell speed weight is a little too high then swapping to the mog neck and t9 earrings makes sense. Unfortunately I cannot test this build 100% until I get the t7 mask... Which seems like never. I guess I could do coil w/ 489 acc but missed attacks from my pet may counter the slightly better build especially since I use Ifrit at times.

[Dwill]

I won't be trying that as I've yet to collect a single atma. But I am interested in trying that build w/ HA book vs this build. http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/NKDF According to Ariyala's weights this build is very slightly better. But if his spell speed weight is a little too high then swapping to the mog neck and t9 earrings makes sense. Unfortunately I cannot test this build 100% until I get the t7 mask... Which seems like never. I guess I could do coil w/ 489 acc but missed attacks from my pet may counter the slightly better build especially since I use Ifrit at times.

The difference between the build you linked and the one Avalen posted is extremely minimal. We're talking about something approximately 1,03% damage in your favor.

[whiskeybravo]

Can an exp'd SMN look at my gear set and advise on the following:

Was going to get ST legs for the accuracy boost, but since I got the crafted hands I have a bit more accuracy than I orignally planned on. I also just got the UAT, so next week I will get the book of spades and unweather it. I have a lot of crit, 545, and while I don't want to lose too much crit, thinking about getting the soldiery legs and ST boots instead for a nice Det increase at the expense of crit. (like -60 crit for +50 det and some more int) Still need an oil to upgrade ring, and going to try to get the mog neck and soldiery earrings after that, which should put me 480-490 accuracy.

Is SMN accuracy for coil about the same as melee? 470ish for t6/7 and 490ish for t8/9? I've been DRG main for a while, but we are having some problems with kiters in t7, so I told the group I'll gear up SMN some more and do it. (was actually some epic fails last night, my first couple tries at kiting, but it'll get easier with practice)

Does this sound like a decent plan for gears? Also, any tips for kiting in t7? What I really need to figure out is how much distance I have to play with before I get schmacked. I didn't have much problem getting into position and miasma'ing, it was all the other stuff messing me up (which I thought I had pretty much figured out, but I guess it's just a hell of a lot easier for melee).

[NightReach]

491 acc is what you should aim for, Over acc is not really an issue, cuz savage requires even more accuracy. As for gear sold chest/pants are too good to miss, ring is good too, ramuh x ring is better then HA ring. Crit weighs slightly better then Det.

As for kiting, i pull with bio, then just miasma where ever you want it to be. You can turn the renault forward after u miasma so it gets petrifacation so you will never have a bad timing during the last transition. stack 4 is not really worth it since they change something in the patch. You can pull about 300-350 dps in t7 while kiting, so you only really lose about 100 dpsish. As for range, most cases precast miasma before ur target location. In extreme situation where timing with shriek is terrible u CAN miasama 2 to pull and auto root it in place, without getting clubed on the face.

[whiskeybravo]

Yea, I forgot about the REX ring, that is a nice one, though I've got some clearing to do because I had given up on MEX and LEX a while back.

And yea, the dps, it's going to suck til I get used to kiting, I tried to do it a bit but then I'd be trying to miasma the renaud only to have Mel targeted, and well, bad stuff happened lol.. Just going to take some practice.

[RinchanNau]

491 acc is what you should aim for, Over acc is not really an issue, cuz savage requires even more accuracy. As for gear sold chest/pants are too good to miss, ring is good too, ramuh x ring is better then HA ring. Crit weighs slightly better then Det.

As for kiting, i pull with bio, then just miasma where ever you want it to be. You can turn the renault forward after u miasma so it gets petrifacation so you will never have a bad timing during the last transition. stack 4 is not really worth it since they change something in the patch. You can pull about 300-350 dps in t7 while kiting, so you only really lose about 100 dpsish. As for range, most cases precast miasma before ur target location. In extreme situation where timing with shriek is terrible u CAN miasama 2 to pull and auto root it in place, without getting clubed on the face.

Just kited t7 on SMN for the first time this week. 1 shot, thankfully. Guess it wasn't really my first time as I kited on BRD for several weeks months ago. I was picking them up with ruin 2, but bio is probably a better choice. I can definitely confirm that 350 DPS isn't too hard to accomplish while kiting. And if you bio renauds that will actually make it even higher even if it isn't useful DPS. :P

While I've come to favor Ifrit (after opener) for most fights there is a definitely advantage to Garuda in t7. Especially when kiting. Contagion is quite useful when running around. As is swiftcasting dots on the boss if you happen to be on the run while miasma or bio 2 are falling off.