Bye bye Materia in dungeons and hello to farm crystals.

[Adrian74]

Incoming huge gil spike of all materia. I truly hope a lot of the whingers who couldn't deal with people SB'ing in roulette haven't finished their novus yet, all for saving a whole 2 minutes in a dungeon run.

Totally agree with that...

While I don't know about those guys using crafting gear there. (I personally only use crafting SB gear when farming crystals, because sprite are easy to kill and so, and don't bother anyone in dungeon). Because as you said, the difference of using the appropiate spiritbond accesories in a roulette expert is maybe 1-2 minutes...

IN MY CASE.... With tank I doubt that affects a lot the time (They're not so awesome dealing damage, you know, no DPS)

And when I SB with the scholar some dungeons still faster than with a full-geared scholar, because I love to also deal damage while healing. (More challenging, well, unique way to play in dungeons, they are so easy to heal that you need to do something meanwhile).



Problem here I'm seeing is that some people is happy about the materia tier IV and the novus thing.... I'll have eventually to do, not one novus, but nine.... Yet, I don't care so much about materia IV now and I don't need it.... I need to take materia III.... Now because SE thought it was a good idea we who need materia III for earning some gil will have no other chances but to farm crystals or do super low pointless(When you can't obtain already anything there) dungeons like wanderers and so?.

PS: Someone mentioned Urth's gift, favorite water crystal farm + SB place... I have a few like that for the other crystals except ice, but, geez... Compared to go a Labyrinth of the Ancients or Duty Roulette extreme.... It's boring.

Honestly, didn't expect such a change, the nerf of Hunts was clear and easy to see, but thiis....

[Ultimatecalibur]

Bray/AC/Halahm certainly aren't i80... Stone vigil/hullbreaker/tamtara are... And that's what I'm refering to... SBing ilvl70 there gives me 20-30% SB depending on gear/melds/buffs etc... per run(been doing that for the last 2 weeks a lot but at the cost of 10k/animal fat quite expensive - mostly broke atm).

Argh... typo due to not being fully awake. Thanks for the correction.

[Appleh4x]

Farming materia has been my main source of gil since the game launched. I don't wear a bunch of crafting gear and queue for stuff either. This change is total funking bullshot and directly ruins my gameplay experience.

[Dallie]

I worry less about your wallet, and more about those poor souls that haven't finished Novus yet. What of their wallet!?

Exactly. I'm just now on the cusp of finishing Animus and this only tells me materia prices are going to be even more ridiculous.

It also ruins any chances of successfully SB'ing AND gathering tomes outside of hunts. You can either SB in a starter dungeon, and get squat for tomes, or the opposite. Since most of us aren't going to craft ilvl70 stuff to SB in on a regular basis, this leaves about 10% of the playerbase still able to utilize the old method.

[Adrian74]

Farming materia has been my main source of gil since the game launched. I don't wear a bunch of crafting gear and queue for stuff either. This change is total funking bullshot and directly ruins my gameplay experience.

Ah, yes, you welcome. I'm not a big seller, neither I can be paying attention to market board for every damn thing every 5 minutes for checking undercut, so... So... At least I had materia, that even when it is undercutted you always still selling it when the time comes and the prices get up.... But now, we don't have it, well, we have, but more boring and annoying.

They messed up the only funny way to do materia. I suppose this can only be good in the fact that some people will refuse to make materia with boring farming-methods and will just try to go other things, thus, making materia more expensive because less materia around....But, geez, at least in my server I'm almost the only one, or one of the only one amon 3-4 doing a lot of this and melding materia to relics.

The other money methods are not so suitable for those who can't be checking the market board every 5 minutes for the undercuts. (Not exactly by laziness)

Oh, btw, stop whining and.... SUGGESTION COMES HERE!

If the problem of spiritbonding is doing it with gatherer or crafter gear in a dungeon.... WHY NOT DON'T ALLOW to equip those items there?... It's not like we are going to need using crafting and gathering gear in a dungeon so....Or make it so you can only equip accesories for your class in dungeons (No accesories "all classes"). It would be so easy as...

Guy: "Hehe, going to get some crafting materias in a dungeon...." *clicks for queue the dungeon* *Mesagge pops: "You can't enter this duty with your current equipment, please check you fulfill all requirements"*
Guy: "Oh, crap, then...." *changes to full gear and queues*
Guy: "Hi, let's begin the crafting party!" *tries to change to crafting accesories* *Mesagge pops: "You can't currently equip this type of items because they don't fit with the duty you're on"*
Guy: "NOOOOO! I... I'll have to craft for having crafting materiaaaaa!" (Yes, even I think this phrase is super idiotic...xD)

And with this suggestion guys who still using proper accesories and class for their materia tier III still using roulette, while the evil craft-gatherer material guys that are a burden for the party can't.

[ServerCollaps]

Farming materia has been my main source of gil since the game launched. I don't wear a bunch of crafting gear and queue for stuff either. This change is total funking bullshot and directly ruins my gameplay experience.

noone stops you from sb-ing.........if you want to sb with instances run castrum/amdapor/wanderers, if you want to sb without running instances go to urths gift as everyone before, or north shroud or any other place with many monsters


the change is good and ruins absolutely nothing

[Arkine]

I don't mind this change at all. Was getting real tired of BRDs in full mage gear without a single DEX item leeching EX runs.

[Appleh4x]

noone stops you from sb-ing.........if you want to sb with instances run castrum/amdapor/wanderers, if you want to sb without running instances go to urths gift as everyone before, or north shroud or any other place with many monsters


the change is good and ruins absolutely nothing

It stops me from SBing how I want to, and how I've been doing since the game launched. I don't want to run CM or amdapor or wanderers, I already did those dungeons a thousand times in 2.0 for philo when that was a thing. I also don't want to find open world level 30 mobs in dense zones to SB grade 2 materia for novus. Don't comment on things you know nothing about

[Dallie]

noone stops you from sb-ing.........if you want to sb with instances run castrum/amdapor/wanderers, if you want to sb without running instances go to urths gift as everyone before, or north shroud or any other place with many monsters


the change is good and ruins absolutely nothing

Wrong. It throws the entire materia economy on its head, again. Forget any of the other implications, like having to do 10 million worthless WP/CM speedruns as your only option besides open world. Forget farming for any worthwhile items while doing a dungeon (insert applicable category). Forget accomplishing multiple tasks at once while SB'ing. Now it's pretty much if you want to SB quickly, that's it, you won't be doing anything else.

[Waterdeep]

Personally I didn't mind people spiritbonding their stuff during daily runs. But I can see why people would get upset about this. As far as making money goes: I never had any money problems in this game. Getting Gil is easy and if that well dried up there are plenty others to tap into.

And by the twelve OP you.... have the.... most annoying... writing sytle... e...ver