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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwill View Post
    Please don't bring this argument in General Discussion. It's already enough having to see that in the DPS sub-forums.
    Sucks, but if you've played WOW, you'll realize it's the sad/cruel reality.
    In fact, I'd be willing to bet that Warlocks feel MORE like Summoners, than the Summoner class we have. Which is basically a gimpy Warlock, with just the baseline of skillset of a WOW Warlock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwill View Post
    Please don't bring this argument in General Discussion. It's already enough having to see that in the DPS sub-forums.
    If it weren't so obvious it wouldn't continue to be brought up, doesn't help that WoW did it better as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkrateia View Post
    Greetings!

    I've provided a bullet-posted summary of this discussion, leaving in the parts that actually relate to the content of the interview. Hopefully this helps summarize what was otherwise a very long thread that was largely off topic.

    Most of the discussion about transcription has been removed, as everyone seemed to express their views and read what other people thought. So that discussion should be considered closed. Please keep the discussion on topic as it relates to the content of the interview, as well as civil between each other. This will allow for a better discussion of the topic, as well as preventing forum account actions.

    LGM Enkrateia
    i have to be blind, because i cant find it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaze3434 View Post
    i have to be blind, because i cant find it.
    maybe there was another thread about this somewhere else but he forgot to add a link to it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tashigi View Post
    Sucks, but if you've played WOW, you'll realize it's the sad/cruel reality.
    In fact, I'd be willing to bet that Warlocks feel MORE like Summoners, than the Summoner class we have. Which is basically a gimpy Warlock, with just the baseline of skillset of a WOW Warlock.
    And if you've never played WoW, you'd think the people claiming as such as insane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grey_Cain View Post
    I'm expecting 3.0 to be a paid expansion, so not everyone will get it, and thus the 2.x line of updates will continue for as long as universal additions are made (such as hard mode dungeons, housing items, glamour, etc.). So when Yoshi says the expansion is MUCH closer than anyone expects, I think it's going to be released sometime between 2.4 and 2.5. It also explains why they aren't worried about releasing ROG/NIN on its own with no other classes/jobs until 3.0. :3
    err, nope, don't hope it. when the 3.0 will come out, even if it's a paid expansion... all the patch after will be 3.x.they will have the generic change added for the people that haven't it. but don't hope them to simply split them team for do two different type of patch. in the mmorpg, when an expansion come out, they simply do like if everybody have it, and leave alone the previous content.
    at best i think the 2.5 will be the end of the 2.x line in term of story and will lead us to the 3.0. since the 2.4 will be the end of BC.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    You mean warlock - a summoner's key mechanic is their summons in the FF series. We have Warlock

    (I get what you were saying though.)
    yeah it's true that make a class without attack and only relying on the pet, it's smart. by the way WoW did create nothing mmorpg before add pet class with dot. they had no choice actually with FF14, if you think about it, what sort of attack you will have wanted? he summon a monster for do 1 hit and disappear? or maybe direct damage spell like the blm... (both are the same in terms of mechanic, only the animation it's different)

    they have give to the summoner dot for allows him to have time to give order to him pet. remember when you use a spell you can't order your pet. people love to complain simply for the pleasure to complain without think one minute.
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    Last edited by silentwindfr; 08-18-2014 at 03:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Just an Fyi, XI's first expansion was out about now - Same team largely and definitely same company. It wasn't a tiny expansion either, when most people think of XI 'at launch' they think of Zilart era if they started in the west, which dramatically increased the size of XI's world.

    Plus during ARR dev they said the first expansion should be out about a year after launch, so I don't think anyone thinks it's as easy as 'making a hamburger', it's more like the alternating update focus is what delayed it because they delayed the Crystal Tower in the first place.
    FFXI came out May 16, 2002. Rise of the Zilart came out October 28, 2003. It took the team nearly a year and a half to get the expansion out. We have the FFXIV team at a year now and an expansion likely coming about a half a year from now. This is also coming from a group of people that was able to create a new MMO within 2 1/2 years or so. So color me impressed how well they are keeping up with things.

    On them saying it would be a year after, "Anything is subject to change."
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    Last edited by Velhart; 08-19-2014 at 12:18 AM.

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