PLEASE REMOVE PVP RANK REQ FROM GEAR

[Assirra]

I'd assume the people saying "No it's fine" have not actually looked at just how much of a grind rank 40 pvp is. It's Ludicrous I tell you, Ludicrous! The grind for the points is enough. You can grind the top tier glamour fodder for like 3 different classes by the time you're actually able to wear it.

I don't know about you guys, but between hunts, novus and the pvp grind, there really isn't much I can "Please look forward to" that is in the near future. All this stuff is like 2+ months of non-stop boring grinds.

You want pvp gear but don't wanna pvp? So i assume you want it for glamours only then.

[HakuroDK]

Takes about 250 matches of frontlines if you win all the time, about 300ish if you're in the middle 2nd and third.

Suck it up. It's better than the 5k you originally needed from wolves den.

here's the google doc detailing the xp needed for each lvl and how many matches per WD vs FL.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...rive_web#gid=6

While I don't really care for the "Suck it up" remark (seriously, is tactfulness dead?), I appreciate the sharing of the google doc, which puts a lot of things in perspective. Thank you!

[Evangela]

keep the level requirement.

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

The rank requierement is ok.
Having to level it 3 times is not.
The way you level said ranks is not.
The way you get your marks is not.

I wonder why people on this forums confuse skills and hard work with just spending time. It take the same to a players just mindlessly running arround the FL without participating to get said gear than someone who cares about its team and goes for the victory. No skill, no hard work, same reward. Because you only need to spend time, not do anything close to be skilled in something or to hard work for something. And after all that, if you ever change GC, well, remember, GC change comes with a lobotomy so you forget your skills and how to use the gear you just were wearing 2 minutes ago and you spend 2 months getting, you did nothing else, just, spend time, like you could even AFK or move a bit each 1 minute while watching a show on a second monitor.

"Hard Work".


PvP Rank is ok, the requirement for gear is ok. How PvP experience is given, and how there is 3 and not just 1 universal PvP rank is what is wrong. There needs to be just 1 PvP rank, experience and marks have to be awarded based on team`s place + personal performance, so players playing, get more seals than AFKers or bad players.

But is surprising and archaic, a PvP that requieres grind and is not just a relaxing way to spend time, is a booring grind if you want gear, and a stupid lockout and rollback if you change GC. Amazing, 2001 gaming standars when gamers had average 14 years old and did not have other things to do besides that.

[Barboron]

I have a full set and I will say...no thanks. I bust my ass in frontlines and I don't even wear the i100 gear anymore because the majority of it is just horrible if not completely stupid.

Honestly though, what were the Devs. thinking with giving the WAR bear set two heads? That's a genuine question because the majority of people who comment on it, point that out first as being idiotic. If anything needs to be done, they need to change that head piece to a single bear head with a jaw opening visor exactly like the PLD set. Also...those giant wings on the bear set.

[DishSoap]

id rather have it on there makes ppl work for it and not just be handed top pvp gear

It does make sense. PvP is all about braging rights. Just earn it

Because win trading is super hard work guys.

[Sygmaelle]

The fact of the matter is that no one participates in Wolves Den PVP anymore. Well, ALMOST no one. But still. It's pretty much dead right now. I can earn a full set of i100 PVE gear and be able to equip it right out of the gate faster than I can earn and have the ability to equip a full set of i100 PVP gear by running the exact same content. It doesn't make very much sense and, despite still being relatively recent, the whole PVP rank restriction has become antiquated really freaking fast.

Does anyone happen to know if glamours override the PVP rank restriction, though? That'd be nice, at the very least. I'd be willing to shell out a few thousand gil for some glamour prisms.

It does make sense. PvP is all about braging rights. Just earn it

[stephenjd3]

no one would do pvp if they removed the requirement this is a silly thread.

[Sygmaelle]

Because win trading is super hard work guys.

So is hunting, your point ? Im leveling up by doin Frontlines since I got bored of Wolves Den after a good hundred of match played. FL is fun and to gain a level its really not that long. I did like 135 matches on my scholar and I'm pvp 28, soooooo ... given the highest lvl you need is 38 I don't think its that much of a hassle

[DishSoap]

So is hunting, your point ?

My point is that isn't really a "bragging right" if you can easily do shit like that.