Supra worth it?

[Ooshima]

It all depends on how you see it.

If you are just going to be looking at 2.2-2.3, Supra definitely doesn't make any sense.

But if you are setting sight on 2.4 and beyond, that's another story.

Those who are working on getting all supras or at least the few important, gil making jobs are all preparing for patch 2.4. New crafting recipes, expected to be ilvl 110 will be tougher to make than current 3 stars. And remember when 3 stars first came, people aren't 100% sure how to make them with a comfortable success rate of HQ. A new i70 off-hand, combined with Supra's stats, might be needed for 4 star crafting.

And if you do not have your preparations done before hand, you would be left behind the most profitable period of the game.

[Mooserocka33]

I can't even get the foragers ones cost so much money

[TomTom1968]

I try to get all of my DOH's the 70 tool. I doubt I will have a single 75 tool by the time 2.4 hits us. I also wonder if they will release new tools when they introduce new receipies. But it might be that the actual 75 tools will be the must have tools for 2.4 and 2.5. Future will tell. I only know that it will take a lot of time and GIL to get all DOL their 75 tool. I hope they ease the amount of GC items (hardened sap, Coke etc.) you need for desynthing Level 70 items. This would make your way to desynth 3 star crafts a lot easier. Crafting them is also expensive (Myth mats) but at least you get the Demimateria you are after if you desynth these items. The rest before is just trying to get there and destroying hundreds of items.

[Sakasa]

I hope they ease the amount of GC items (hardened sap, Coke etc.) you need for desynthing Level 70 items.

Not much help, but if you desyn the i70 pvp gear you have a chance of getting completed myth items such as darksteel ingot with armorer. I assume the same goes for gsm on accessories, and leatherwork and weaver on armors. But that still leaves a problem with the need of ruby, or glazenuts for certain crafts look for field 3s and master.

[PandemoniumFF11]

So, let me ask you a question to answer your questions:

If you can craft and get the materias yourself, but you instead just buy your way to iL75 tools, what is the difference with this vs you paying some FC to carry you thru all the nEX trials and Coils?

For me, personally I rather do it myself just because I want to play the game.

So let me ask you this, does your post have anything at all to do with what he asked? See I like to post on things that are relevant to what the topic is. That's just me though, I guess you can keep thinking you are Elite on a game that has a low skill floor, and cap. Just saying..

[Millen1]

Having done a lot of 3 star crafts. I don't see any use for the small stat increases. On the flip side my gear has max stats and that was very expensive. The new tools could help offset some of the expesive overmelds on crafting gear. So if you don't spend much on the gear, then I could see a use for the tool. 2.4 is a ways off. Raise your desynth level and make the materia yourself. It goes slow but it costs much less than buying now. Do the daily turn ins and fates for GC seals, get the mats you need to desynth the field 3 for free. Take a long term look at this and it isn't very expensive. Only a small grind for the seals.

[AttacKat]

So let me ask you this, does your post have anything at all to do with what he asked? See I like to post on things that are relevant to what the topic is. That's just me though, I guess you can keep thinking you are Elite on a game that has a low skill floor, and cap. Just saying..

Sure it does, especially to the OP.

Many people forgot, or do not know if they are new to this game and doesn't know YoshiP and his approach.

Whenever something new is introduced, there are always tons of players rushing to get it as if if they do not have it they cannot play the game. But the truth is, YoshiP does this because he wants to give the hardcore players enough content and that they do not finish it within 1-2 days (even tho some still do), and the rest of us (hint: me is far from elite) can take our time and play catch up later.

We have many examples of this with all the DoW/M iL70 gears, iL90 gears, and now iL110 gears with lockouts, echo buffs, currently caps are just few of the approaches YoshiP employees to do this. When comes time for the next iLvl increase, he eases up on the methods to obtain the previous iLvl items. Hunts is a perfect example ATM.

The iL75 tool is no different. The grind will ease up a few patches down the road.

[Elasia]

Sure it does, especially to the OP.
Many people forgot, or do not know if they are new to this game and doesn't know YoshiP and his approach.

Whenever something new is introduced, there are always tons of players rushing to get it as if if they do not have it they cannot play the game. But the truth is, YoshiP does this because he wants to give the hardcore players enough content and that they do not finish it within 1-2 days (even tho some still do), and the rest of us (hint: me is far from elite) can take our time and play catch up later.

We have many examples of this with all the DoW/M iL70 gears, iL90 gears, and now iL110 gears with lockouts, echo buffs, currently caps are just few of the approaches YoshiP employees to do this. When comes time for the next iLvl increase, he eases up on the methods to obtain the previous iLvl items. Hunts is a perfect example ATM.

The iL75 tool is no different. The grind will ease up a few patches down the road.

Exactly... which is actually one of the biggest reasons getting the tools now is so utterly pointless when the next patch will make them far cheaper to obtain / actually needed possibly. The method is the same but is still flawed for this particular style of gaming. Its more akin to just having to use a endgame mob cockblock that is near unkillable due to lack of content.