New 3 Star Weapons

[Elasia]

Can you explain a little more here? Your saying 4 PbP and 3 CS2's under IG2 would be more optimal? Or are you saying 4 PbP and the Brand Abilities (1-3) ?

Also do these aspected recipes cut PbP progress in half as they do the other skills? Or is PbP seperate from this issue? Perhaps thats why 4 PbP would be more optimal.

It mostly just comes down to mana cost trade offs, I've used pbp to replace brands in pretty much all aspected crafts for along time now and then finish with cs2 which is mana free, using brands typically just wastes more mana than using pbp chains until they cross and by that time you can usually just cs2 anyway

pbp is not affected by aspecting

[PROBOUND]

It mostly just comes down to mana cost trade offs, I've used pbp to replace brands in pretty much all aspected crafts for along time now and then finish with cs2 which is mana free, using brands typically just wastes more mana than using pbp chains until they cross and by that time you can usually just cs2 anyway

pbp is not affected by aspecting

Thanks for the clarification Elasia. Would it also be beneficial to do 4 PbP on the increased difficulty (667) Augmented Chest peices? As i was told we only need 1 extra PbP for those. Would it be more beneficial to add in 2 more or would that be a waste in CP in that situation.

[Elasia]

Thanks for the clarification Elasia. Would it also be beneficial to do 4 PbP on the increased difficulty (667) Augmented Chest peices? As i was told we only need 1 extra PbP for those. Would it be more beneficial to add in 2 more or would that be a waste in CP in that situation.

I add in one extra pbp and remove a hasty along with some ability changing for mana purposes, im not sure why they even did this one to be honest since its rather pointless... the lower qual rating negates the lost hasty, in fact you can use other techniques due to this for a guaranteed hit with all hq subs you can get pretty much

I find the aspecting of the new weapons much more interesting and should have been something they did to all 3 star... also they should have really put more oomf into aspect powers by somehow disturbing pbp's overpowering reign on them

[PROBOUND]

Here is an example of how hard these new weapons can be to HQ even with all HQ matts. Also takes the prize for Luckiest 3star craft.

[PROBOUND]

I would stick with hasty spam, looking at rotations you should be able to hit it with 4xPbP, BoF, and a CS2:

CZ
IQ
SH
4xPbP

stuff

143 CP, 30 durability left
SH2 (or SH with 125 CP is OK)
ING2
INNO
GS
BB
BoF
CS2

Can anyone confirm if: 4 PbP + 1 Brand + CSII (under IGII) completes the progress with 391 Craftmanship?

Someone mentioned 4 PbP being more optimal but most of the rotations i've seen include 3 PbP > 2 Brand abilities (Both under IGII) and 1 CSII (under IGII). Or are they essentially the same thing as they both cost 15cp?

[StouterTaru]

Can anyone confirm if: 4 PbP + 1 Brand + CSII (under IGII) completes the progress with 391 Craftmanship?

Someone mentioned 4 PbP being more optimal but most of the rotations i've seen include 3 PbP > 2 Brand abilities (Both under IGII) and 1 CSII (under IGII). Or are they essentially the same thing as they both cost 15cp?

4 PbP will get you down to 88 (297 > 198 > 132 > 88).

Everything else will be half of what it is for normal 3 stars due to the fire aspect. 71 becomes 35, which means BoF will get you ~58.

You can replace a PbP with a BoF, but it's a dumb move. They cost the same CP, but BoF needs SH and INGII instead of just SH. That's the difference between being able to fit Innovation on your BB or not.