Dungeon Finder

[giftforce]

LFD is only bad when it does the following.

Groups people cross-server which completely eliminates accountability.
Teleports people directly to the dungeon.

It's not fun shouting for a group or /lfg for hours. LFD is fine as long as it is server-restricted and doesn't teleport people directly to the dungeon. All it does is make the grouping automated so those of us who don't want to spend hours looking for a group don't have to. You're still more than welcome to group the old fashioned way, nobody is stopping you.

Basically you're asking for an improved LFG system, which I would distinguish from the typical LFD mechanic (as standardised in WoW and RIFT). And I wouldn't say no to such a system, actually.

I think a more streamlined and even automated LFG system would be good for the game, and not just for dungeons but for parties and NM hunts and any other situation that calls for a group.

[Dubont]

Basically you're asking for an improved LFG system, which I would distinguish from the typical LFD mechanic (as standardised in WoW and RIFT). And I wouldn't say no to such a system, actually.

I think a more streamlined and even automated LFG system would be good for the game, and not just for dungeons but for parties and NM hunts and any other situation that calls for a group.

FFXI had an automated group system and it sucked. 2 blms, a thf, a war, a bst and a drk....yeah, great group.

[giftforce]

FFXI had an automated group system and it sucked. 2 blms, a thf, a war, a bst and a drk....yeah, great group.

Must you people on this forum always nitpick?

Just because FFXI sucked at implementing an idea doesn't mean it's a crappy idea, it just means it's "back to the drawing board" to improve the idea and make it functional.

If the only problem was that it created illogical party setups then it's a simple case of more parameters being needed.

[Shipp]

Must you people on this forum always nitpick?

Just because FFXI sucked at implementing an idea doesn't mean it's a crappy idea, it just means it's "back to the drawing board" to improve the idea and make it functional.

If the only problem was that it created illogical party setups then it's a simple case of more parameters being needed.

I actually have to agree with this. The simple solution is this: Just like in WoW (I haven't played Rift since the LFD, but assuming it works the same), you queue up and you select your ROLE. You select tank, healer, and DPS. Based on the model in WoW, you're auto grouped with 3 dps, a tank, and a healer. There is no reason why this game cannot set up specific parameters like this to suit THIS game's typical party.

I never once used the auto-group feature in XI, but I have to say, even XI's lfg system was loads better than the one XIV has. You could just /sea all xx-xx and ask around if nobody was flagged in your level range. The slowness of that system was because of players wanting to QQ over certain classes, which really was part crappy mechanics for classes such as DRG, and part elitist community. An automated LFG tool which groups people based on their role and not class/job will greatly help alleviate that problem. It's not going to be fun for new players to not get invited to a group because job x isn't as good as job y.

bad idea.

/signed

Care to give reasons instead of participating in what appears to be bandwagoning?

[mikefmc]

I actually have to agree with this. The simple solution is this: Just like in WoW (I haven't played Rift since the LFD, but assuming it works the same), you queue up and you select your ROLE. You select tank, healer, and DPS. Based on the model in WoW, you're auto grouped with 3 dps, a tank, and a healer. There is no reason why this game cannot set up specific parameters like this to suit THIS game's typical party.

I never once used the auto-group feature in XI, but I have to say, even XI's lfg system was loads better than the one XIV has. You could just /sea all xx-xx and ask around if nobody was flagged in your level range. The slowness of that system was because of players wanting to QQ over certain classes, which really was part crappy mechanics for classes such as DRG, and part elitist community. An automated LFG tool which groups people based on their role and not class/job will greatly help alleviate that problem. It's not going to be fun for new players to not get invited to a group because job x isn't as good as job y.


Care to give reasons instead of participating in what appears to be bandwagoning?

Sorry i didnt buy this game to play wow. If thats what you want go back to it. thank you.

[Exiledraven]

Sorry i didnt buy this game to play wow. If thats what you want go back to it. thank you.

Sorry, I didn't buy this game to play the same antiquated, time wasting mechanics that FFXI had. If that's what you want, go back to it. Or if not, then stop being a douche to other people who have different opinions than yours. Debate their points in a civilized manner instead of resorting to cheap cliche phrases we've all heard 1000 times already.

[giftforce]

Sorry, I didn't buy this game to play the same antiquated, time wasting mechanics that FFXI had. If that's what you want, go back to it. Or if not, then stop being a douche to other people who have different opinions than yours. Debate their points in a civilized manner instead of resorting to cheap cliched phrases we've all heard 1000 times already.

There's a difference between being antiquated and being traditional.

What you are wanting is not the opposite of antiquated (anti-antiquated? ... quated?). What you are asking for is mere convenience.

But the drawback of convenience is a loss of social interaction. There is something to be said for old-fashioned MMOs which required a social-component to get things done. Be it shouting in town for a P.U.G. or making enough friends so you always had people to group with.

So saying it is outdated to make people talk to eachother is not really a valid complaint.

It's not outdated, it's just different.

I don't think it's too much too expect of people in an MMO to interact with people. Sometime's that's part of the game.

Plus an automatic dungeon finder can server to undermine the expansiveness of the gameworld, too. So there's a lot of reasons not to implement it. Convenience isn't always of paramount importance. You have to consider what you lose, not just what you gain (a few more minutes of your day).

[Captaindownsyndrome]

Must you people on this forum always nitpick?

u stating that, is just down right funny