SE, can you please make a definitive statement on your stance on parsers?

[Ooshima]

I have mumble and my exclusion had nothing to do with Voip. Dont derail the topic. That's why i'm aggravated. I have found a killer fc that is willing to accept despite my inferior hardware but there were at least 2 others that did not even want to consider someone due to ps4. And there is definitely a stigma against us.

There are a few exceptional console players around that can work around with communication and VOIPs. If one is really a top end/edge player, I am pretty sure top FCs would consider.

Unfortunately to be straightforward to you, looking at your lodestone, ACN/THM 50, ARC 35. This is hardly an impressive profile if you want to apply to any of the server's top FCs. Top FCs are often not only looking for players who can play one class well, but able to play other classes as an when required. It also suggest that you haven't been putting in much time into the game. Top FCs doesn't need raid loggers - often they want people active outside raids as well. Crafting are often highly valued especially when new patch comes for progression. These FCs want to build a close knit community as well. Maybe you should review yourself to see if you actually had such qualities wanted by top FCs you are looking at.

[Amberyl]

Yeah i read through all 30 pages. I didnt see a single comment from square.

It's linked in the op.

[ghostx1984]

Make your own fc perhaps?

Preferably with blackjack... and miqote escorts.

haha classic bender. nice one. have you played on jenova? i welcome you to come here and build a static with the ps4 players for endgame raiding chief. oh jesus.

ok ladies and gents. ive said my piece here. really looking forward to an ingame damage meter so i dont have to feel like a convict asking pc players what im pushing dpswise for endgame raiding because as we know, talking about damage meters is banworthy but using them is no problemo.

[DuelingPokemon]

Uh....About the Ps3/Ps4 thing? Ive seen PLENTY of console folk out there who kick butt in dungeons/raids and they dont need a parser to show they have skill. Skill is working together, staying out of stuff when it appears, knowing when and when not to attack a boss, and so forth! Not numbers that pop up in a little box to the side of the screen.

Another thing: I had enough of DPS meters back when I played WoW. Damned things were waved in our faces after every trash pull and brought out the worst in some people. Fairly sure some people out there would echo my statement. Probably one of the main reasons they wanna keep that stuff out of the game.

Thirdly....Since when did this become a thread about politics? Im sure that has nothing to do with a question that SE has said NO to plenty of times.

[ghostx1984]

Has nothing to do with parsers, I bet.

http://imgur.com/ExrPL33

I mean this is just one example of a few. I only ever responded to requests for my specific class which i found on forums. I was trying to get into a group that takes progression seriously. That's all i care about. 8 people that show up on raid nights. Kinda hard to do when youre not on a pc and you get these types of responses on your applications.

Again, i think I have found I place we can fit in so it's a non-issue for me personally, but I think square has created a system of haves and have nots by not letting us check our dps output in game. PC players are going to do it. I can tell you that the majority of the top 10, if not every one of them uses parsers.

I thank you for your concern DuelingPokemon and i agree with you nobody wants to hear about numbers every pull. That said, I do want to know my numbers for itemizing my novus which took 4 months spread out to put together how adding either 40 spelllspeed or 40 crit will effect my output. I do want to know my numbers before i go into instances so i'm pumping out the best rotations and timings of the rotations. I do want to be maximizing my dps when i start playign new classes like ninja. Sure I could go look at purostriders spreadsheets but its not the same as doing my own testing in game and getting a feel for the differences in burst potential and sustained dps.

I just want them to know that people who do actually take their endgame seriously are being ostracized for not being on pcs. And they're putting me through alot of undue stress that I really shouldnt have to deal with.

[ghostx1984]

It also suggest that you haven't been putting in much time into the game. Top FCs doesn't need raid loggers - often they want people active outside raids as well. Crafting are often highly valued especially when new patch comes for progression.

Excuse me? I didn't come here to be berated by a peanut gallery. I've found a place to move to and i'm going to be raiding somewhere regardless because i'm a raider. period. I have an i108 smn, i108 blm, i55 mastercraft goldsmith with desynthing at 76/100, i55 cul, i55 alch, i55 wvr, i55 miner all hq with all best in slot melds. overmelds alone can fail up to 13-20 times. god knows how many millions i spent on my overmelds for each set. I solely paid for our 21 million gil mansion. Not to mention my second melee based character and being solely responsible for gardening and collecting soil.

I specifically addressed this topic to square hoping to get some type of response on the issue on behalf of my fellow raiding ps4 players who are going to be dealing with the negative stigmas.

I think their current policies are bogus and they need a damage meter for ps4 players. But i agree with what you're saying. I have definitely not been a slacker. If I was a slacker, I wouldnt care about improving my play to bring all i can to a raid and I can ensure you i'm plenty strong in that department. But when you play a game an extreme number of hours, you to tend to want to play it to the best of your ability and not halfass things. I dont halfass anything. I'm all in or i'm not playing it.

When you get discriminated against you'll take it personally too.

[Alphras]

They are forbidden by the FF14 User Agreement. There you have your statement. You can write a mail to the support, they will tell you the same thing.

"2.5 Data Mining. You may not intercept, mine or otherwise collect information from the Game using unauthorized third party software." (source)

[Felis]

Q: Please implement an official DPS tool and a feature that shows the HP % of enemies.

A: I've talked with Gondai about displaying HP percentages, and it doesn't seem to be difficult to implement. Once I get back to Tokyo, I'll talk with Minagawa about it.

As for a DPS tool, however, there was a question posed in North America asking if it was okay to use them, and we replied saying it is not okay. First, let me say that we are proactively eliminating speed hacks and warp tools, and we are permanently suspending FINAL FANTASY XIV accounts as soon as we confirm their use. We don’t want players using these as they are strictly prohibited. As the developers of FINAL FANTASY XIV, we have to say no when asked if it's okay to use third-party tools. Even if it’s just a program that takes what's in the logs and calculates it, we have to say no as there is a possibility that the program could be harmful. However, to delineate this somewhat, there are ideas for user created content, and I believe that modding PC games is one part of enjoying game culture. While you're expanding the ways you enjoy games through mods, you’ll also be entering into the realm of individual responsibility.

I’m asked quite frequently whether we have plans to address an official feature that displays DPS measurements, but due to our current policy, we don't have any plans for this. The reason for this is that certain levels of DPS will be forced upon players. However, I understand the desire to know how much damage you are outputting, and while it will take some time, we’ve been discussing making it so striking dummies measure DPS as well as whether we can add a training activity for new players where you’ll have to deal a certain amount of damage within a certain time. This is how we've decided to address an official DPS meter.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...806-04-2014%29

People should read more the live letters

[ghostx1984]

A dummy that you have to dps withing a certain timeframe is a step in the right direction but that's still a poorman's solution. I mean you can look at the jackass who coldly rejected me up above. They want Factual Data. I want factual data. A dummy isn't going to help you nitpick intricacies.

In an mmo, i want something that I can get numbers from. I want numbers. I would be sorely disappointed by a tool to meet a minimum requirement. Because i'm going to be shooting for extreme and savage content which are about the Maximum and not the Minimum outputs. I play the game because I love learning new things about my class all the time. Not because I want to keep things a mystery guessing game which is what it is if you don't have a meter.

If i can't play the game at the highest level then i dont want to play it. I am not cool with being a dumbass.

[ghostx1984]

It's your game. I dont want to tell you what to do, but i will tell you that you are definitely on pace to divide your playerbase. Youre going to have ps4 players complaining its too hard and pc players saying its too easy. If you don't bring the ps4 players up to the level of the pc player so they can learn to play, they wont stick around. OR conversely, if you make the content easier for them, you're going to royally piss off the pc players.

This is exactly what happened in the bridge from Sunwell to Wotlk. Sunwell was some of the hardest content they made up to that point and regular Wotlk was a snoozefest. This sharp turn from bleeding edge difficult to snoozefest disenfranchised alot of players. You went from bosses taking a month to 1 day for everything. I think people including myself really like the turn structure having t8 being the reward for beating t7 and being able to display your knowledge of the game with the i110.

So what i'm saying is, you can condition and give people the tools to play at a higher level so they can appreciate endgame or you can end up having to simplify fights to be facemashing contests (face vs keyboard=deadboss). I would go with the former.