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  1. #81
    Player Taruranto's Avatar
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    Archs Crysta
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kienkarajo View Post
    I dont feel like a god healing at pvp actually I feel like a piñata
    Perfect answer.
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  2. #82
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    bbkkristian's Avatar
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    Kris Valience
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    So how are you supposed to counter a team of 4+ healers?
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  3. #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by bbkkristian View Post
    So how are you supposed to counter a team of 4+ healers?
    you don't. look people, just because you see a group of players, it doesn't mean you should ram your face into them. there are certain classes and certain combos of classes you just should not verse against because you just can't beat them in a pug and/or just take too long to beat and is just a waste of time when you could be doing something to benefit the team, point blank. in an organized premade yes, maybe even if your pug group is competent enough to follow directions and beat them (but 99.9% of them aren't so if you're in pug avoid 4+ healer groups as much as possible and go somewhere else). its the same way across many mmos in their battlegrounds. just because its you verses them, it doesn't mean you're entitled to beat them.

    you in theory could just focus fire them down one at a time, but that would mean having a dps/tank on the other healers or have a blm mass sleep and bring them down, but in reality, if you're in a pug, just don't bother. just hit another base. it will take you more time to get them down than the time given for the whole match. pugs are just too disorganized for strategic game play.
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    Last edited by Gor; 08-11-2014 at 09:35 AM.

  4. #84
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    Kris Valience
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gor View Post
    you don't. look people, just because you see a group of players, it doesn't mean you should ram your face into them. there are certain classes and certain combos of classes you just should not verse against because you just can't beat them in a pug and/or just take too long to beat and is just a waste of time when you could be doing something to benefit the team, point blank. in an organized premade yes, maybe even if your pug group is competent enough to follow directions and beat them (but 99.9% of them aren't so if you're in pug avoid 4+ healer groups as much as possible and go somewhere else). its the same way across many mmos in their battlegrounds. just because its you verses them, it doesn't mean you're entitled to beat them.
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    So basically, they are a moving impregnable fortress that can dominate every outpost they encounter due being like a metagame-pokemon-esque wall. Stoop to their level or get out.
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  5. #85
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    Quote Originally Posted by bbkkristian View Post
    So how are you supposed to counter a team of 4+ healers?
    Have 2-3 Healers in your party, and competent focus firing DPS.
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  6. #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by bbkkristian View Post
    So basically, they are a moving impregnable fortress that can dominate every outpost they encounter due being like a metagame-pokemon-esque wall. Stoop to their level or get out.
    to a pug, 98% of the time, yes
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  7. #87
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    Scathe,Scathe Scathe, sleep, scathe,scathe.....SCH sleep the pet, scathe the sch, whm chase them around and scathe, you don't have to kill a healer, make them los their team. keep them moving, herding healers is easy and fun.
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  8. #88
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    M'irau Rhya
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by bbkkristian View Post
    So how are you supposed to counter a team of 4+ healers?
    Focus fire and cc. I know that is really hard in pug's but with that many healers i doubt they even make in a dent in your party if you have 2 or 3 on your own (which you should)
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  9. #89
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    Kaishen Commodore
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    Quote Originally Posted by bbkkristian View Post
    So how are you supposed to counter a team of 4+ healers?
    If you can't kill them due to lack of coordination and/or party job composition, go grab their outpost instead. Why waste time trying to brute-force them. Better having one flag than fighting for 5 minutes and having nothing.
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  10. #90
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    Aura Shurifon
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    And if 4+ healer is OP, you still can do the same and go to 4+ healer yourself and be on equal ground of big time consumming fight that is useless to take....
    Strategy is the key, read some of Napoleon and Sun Tsu strategic book, they are hundreds of years old and are still relevant to this day.

    PS: And i'd never played any PvP (not even once ^^)
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    Le craft, c'est la vie ! || Craft is Life !

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