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    Quote Originally Posted by Gormogon View Post
    Do you simply turn a blind eye to it?

    Regardless of people using parsers or not it's obvious when damage is lower than it should be.

    Parsers is a tool that can be used to inform players and the majority use of it is to weed out the bad by pointing out that their numbers in damage, healing, damage taken from certain abilities isn't where the "cookie cutter" numbers states that you should be in. That's the biggest offense with the tool and it's what is mainly used for. No matter how many times people want to put a positive spin on it that just ain't the case since those players don't aim for a avg threshold to go, yeah that will do good enough everything else is up to execution. It's used to see max consist value to try and get as best results possible with the least amount of tries.

    As for teamspeak. Lan parties used to be a thing in the past and still are in some games in some areas. With or without a 3rd party program like TS, Ventrilo, etc people can easily communicate in and outside the game in this day and age. Even if such thing was not allowed taking the type to macro with text commands and noises for fights isn't that difficult just time consuming. Especially with getting people to get used to certain sounds.
    You are EXTREMELY misinformed. Most people using parsers know that it's not something you talk about in game, so you don't even have a clue how many people actually do have them. The people talking about them in game are the minority. Most people use parsers for self improvement to find optimal rotations/test new gear/ give a personal indicator of how you fare in terms of DPS compared to others so you know if you're fine or need to improve. As someone mentioned earlier using a parser is the same as a sprinter timing their runs, if you consider that cheating you are insane. Harassment is harassment, regardless of third party programs and it has nothing to do with parsers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Appleh4x View Post
    You are EXTREMELY misinformed.
    You keep telling yourself that. Keep justifying parsers by saying you know people that use them.

    It doesn't matter to me because pre-parsers to current parser usage behavior is obvious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gormogon View Post
    You keep telling yourself that. Keep justifying parsers by saying you know people that use them.

    It doesn't matter to me because pre-parsers to current parser usage behavior is obvious.
    See, you just proved how much you don't know. Pre-parser behavior? Parsers have been around for FFXIV for 10 months now and you are just now running into people being dumb about them.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mcshiggs View Post
    If the organization that is hosting the races has a no stopwatch policy, then yes timing the sprints is cheating. In XIV they want everyone to feel like heroes, them giving you access to a tool that will let you point out to those "heroes" you are screwing up, and here is the proof isn't something they are going to do.
    What kind of organization hosting a race wouldn't have it timed? This is just a terrible analogy. Every MMO makes you feel like a hero, and almost all of them have built in parsers or app support. The people pointing out you are a bad DPS and saying they are parsing you are just harassing you, and they would be harassing players regardless of third party software.
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    Last edited by Appleh4x; 08-10-2014 at 06:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Appleh4x View Post
    See, you just proved how much you don't know. Pre-parser behavior? Parsers have been around for FFXIV for 10 months now and you are just now running into people being dumb about them.
    Even better, Parsers were around in 1.0.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    Even better, Parsers were around in 1.0.
    Yar, I should have specified ARR but good point
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    Quote Originally Posted by Appleh4x View Post
    See, you just proved how much you don't know.
    What is 2010 for 500.

    FFXIV isn't the only game to use meters and player behavior changes pre to post will always be obvious.

    Like if it was some hidden secret no one has figured out why they even exist to begin with for the past decade.
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    Last edited by Gormogon; 08-10-2014 at 06:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gormogon View Post
    What is 2010 for 500.
    It's a year in which parsers existed too.
    The community in 1.0 was much different to what it is now. Parsers haven't changed, the game/the people have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saeedaisspecial View Post
    It's a year in which parsers existed too.
    The community in 1.0 was much different to what it is now. Parsers haven't changed, the game/the people have.
    End game enforced it to a worse degree.

    Again this isn't something that happened over night. Also these meters aren't even a necessity yet people go on like they can't live without em.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gormogon View Post
    End game enforced it to a worse degree.
    What?
    Do you even think about what you're typing? Most people against parsers in the thread is pretty much arguing that they aren't needed to see how damage is being dealt. You yourself even said you can see where damage is lacking without one.
    Now you're saying parsers are necessary because of how the end game is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by saeedaisspecial View Post
    Now you're saying "parsers are necessary" because of how the end game is?
    Quote Originally Posted by Gormogon View Post
    meters aren't even a necessity
    confuse yourself all you want.
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