Why are Healers allowed to be insanely overpowered?

[sweeney]

people wont be satisfied until healers are nerfed down to just that ... squishy healers. then they'll be right back on these forums complaining about they can't take down a base because they keep wiping since their healers die too fast and they can never stay alive. people will never be satisfied.

what's that saying about the grass being greener?

I find the only issue with healers is that they can easily all camp the middle and spam AoE healing. Locking one down is relatively easy but it's perhaps a little problematic when they have 4 healers. But at the same time as this, once you get the point that's it they aint getting it back easy. Perhaps the problem is that people focus way to much on healers, and leave BLMs and maybe SMNs alone which obv you're gunna get wasted which makes loads of healers look good.

[Kaisha]

You can if you can stunlock them....

Would have to be a handy stunlock, since WHM always has repose as a backup to recoup (assuming Fluid Aura was on CD), and SCH always has their pet to deal with, in which case trying to stunlock both as a PLD would leave you no room to DPS.

Most situations you'll see a healer solo are when they're holding a flag, which is when they'll be sitting with full buffs. If you catch one after they just killed another person trying to claim the flag, you can bet your bottom that their team already has a couple members otw to assist.

[Nanaya]

People are complaining because healers have an incongruent amount of utility compared to pretty much everything else.

On Scholar I can heal competently, DPS competently, and tank a respectable amount, to the point where I cannot think of a single matchup 1v1 that would make me retreat, beyond a melee DPS having limit, which is something of a cheat to begin with. Granted solo battles should not be a common occurrence, but they do happen, and I know several people that just straight up won't even bother if they see a Scholar manning an Outpost they are trying to ninja, whereas they would attack it against most anything else.

And their PvP abilities are probably the best grouping out of any class. Assuming I am facing a Black Mage or Summoner/Scholar, Focalization is like a second Virus. Aetheric Burst is like Slow for any melee class, making getting off casts easier, especially with Shadow Flare up, Mana Draw is a second MP restorative, Attunement can be compounded with Rouse on Eos, to give you a ten second breather as she sits there healing you, and Equanimity is 15 seconds of unfettered casting, as long as you don't get Stunned or Silenced. With its own natural repertoire, and PvP abilities, you're something of a one man army. You more or less have an answer to everything.

But despite that, they are obviously killable. Stack 3-4 people on one Scholar, they're going down. But that happens with any class. The fact that the Scholar will most likely live longer than anyone else is the concerning part, because in a party with 3 healers, which in my opinion is the optimal healer count for a group that can self sustain while also killing the other party, it's a grueling task to kill one, and then keep them down, because Divine Breath is so good. I remember a couple weeks back my group met another group with 3 healers, and after we finally got them all down, I glanced at the duty duration, and that single goddamn fight from start to finish was a solid 8 minutes, and I don't mean Eorzean minutes. I can only imagine how futile it would have felt if we didn't have the optimal group with good players, or not coordinated over a voip like Mumble or Teamspeak.

Scholar, and to a slightly lesser extent, White Mage, is the vanilla Street Fighter IV Sagat of Frontlines. Beatable certainly, but prepare to work your ass off trying to beat lesser skilled players than you, and if you meet a good one, well, better bring your friends as back up.

[Jasiwel]

What if heals cost more mana? Or took longer to cast? The blatant issue is that healers don't have either to consider. They can just spam Physick and CureII on themselves or their teammates.

[Gor]

What if heals cost more mana?

Then SCHs will just use Energy Drain and Mana Draw and WHMs will just use Shroud to get mana back and carry some mana pots. So what's your point?

[Nomad-phx]

every class has pros/cons in pvp. i personally stay away from healers unless theres a lb up on my party, then i find the nearest whm/sch and blast him down to the dirt lol if theres no lb i just go after bards/eos and drg jump all over em till they die.

[Seoulstar]

If people are playing their jobs right, you can't 1v1 a healer.

I've killed people as a healer..and I've been killed as a healer in 1v1's. So yes, it's very possible to 1 vs 1 a healer.

[Geologo]

every class has pros/cons in pvp. i personally stay away from healers unless theres a lb up on my party, then i find the nearest whm/sch and blast him down to the dirt lol if theres no lb i just go after bards/eos and drg jump all over em till they die.

It could be hard, or very hard for some classes, but not true fo all.
For example as monk your can really make them cry, but you havent to DPS them randomly thinking "I'll try to do the highest DPS" you have to proprely attak him in order to interrupt, debuff when he buff etc...
Up to me is really hard to beat a SCH 1v1, up to now only a Marauder killed me as SCH and it was probably my fault, but up to now I saw only a monk that removed me Attunement or other buff, usually people try to just do more DPS than me and so they die.

[Geologo]

Anyway as SCH I saw that if people focus u, and REALLY focus u, you can do really few things if other healers don't heal and protect (Stoneskin/galvanaize).
Infact usually I suggest to my party to subdivide all the healers among 2 or 3 designed DPS (usually bard) in order to interrupt, and the rest of the party will focus 1st marked.

[sweeney]

every class has pros/cons in pvp. i personally stay away from healers unless theres a lb up on my party, then i find the nearest whm/sch and blast him down to the dirt lol if theres no lb i just go after bards/eos and drg jump all over em till they die.

Mhm, I'm a DRG too and I generally priortize like this BLM > WHM/SCH (that isn't being cc'd or attacked to stop costs) > SMN then it's completely dependent on what's happening with my team. DRGs though just rip black mages apart in a fetter ward.