Fishing suppose to be casual right? WRONG!!!!!

[Yahavage]

Can't justify these complaints.

In FFXI fishing for an Ebisu rod was on average a much more harrowing experience.

Seems completely and utterly pointless comparing the two games.

While I agree Ebisu was obscene... saying someone isn't justified to complain because XI was worse is a bit silly :x Personally I think it's completely crackers that we only get vanity stuff from this but hey-ho. XIV does seem to have the difficulty of obtaining some things completely backwards lol

[Velox]

saying someone isn't justified to complain because XI was worse is a bit silly

You're 100% correct. In fact, the issue is actually more justifiable due to SE stating that XIV was designed for casual players (while XI is designed for hardcore players). There's no place for extreme RNG in XIV.

[ZReport]

You're 100% correct. In fact, the issue is actually more justifiable due to SE stating that XIV was designed for casual players (while XI is designed for hardcore players). There's no place for extreme RNG in XIV.

You talk as if there are absolutely 0 hardcore players in the game who don't mind or accept the challenges that are thrown at them.

[Shneibel]

Quick question... Why do people do this job? Any rewards aside from leveling that class?

relax & scenery, more annoying with frustation to build up are the reward

[Spy]

I wish big-fishing was more like this honestly

[Dark-Saviour]

update x : frustrate players with a new punishing game system using a lot of randomness and/or grind
update x+1 : make players happy by easing up this system

More like, "update x +1. Add even more punishment you gotta suffer through after the initial punishment. And GOTTA GO FAST because everything will get kicked up a tier next round.
2 or 3 updates in... That's generall when older things get eased. Kind of. >_>

[Velox]

You talk as if there are absolutely 0 hardcore players in the game who don't mind or accept the challenges that are thrown at them.

Where did I say that? I'm talking about the nature of RNG in a casual focused game. RNG is not difficulty, but rather, a cheap time sink. Since XIV is a casual focused game, content caters to the casual player. The casual player either doesn't or can't play a large number of hours per week, thus making any artificial time sink even longer, ultimately resulting in said player not able to complete the content while it's still worth completing. This wouldn't be a huge issue if SE didn't invalidate old content every 1-2 patches, but since they decided to use that model, they have to lighten up on the RNG to compensate.

[Beetle]

Olgoi-Khorkhoi is required to get the Supra rod - here is a bit of RNG goodness for you.

Can get around this by having il70 battle gear on your fisher have tier3 & tier2 melds. Dodore belt and rest fishing gear and forgers rod. Will have enough skill toget that fish.

Saying dont really need the rod cus with the extra melds on il70 gear your stats are same as having a Supra Rod.
My way actually better cus only costs about 900k-1mil for gear/melds and the field materia costs 3mil.

[ZephyrAM]

Where did I say that? I'm talking about the nature of RNG in a casual focused game. RNG is not difficulty, but rather, a cheap time sink. Since XIV is a casual focused game, content caters to the casual player. The casual player either doesn't or can't play a large number of hours per week, thus making any artificial time sink even longer, ultimately resulting in said player not able to complete the content while it's still worth completing. This wouldn't be a huge issue if SE didn't invalidate old content every 1-2 patches, but since they decided to use that model, they have to lighten up on the RNG to compensate.

It's an MMO, thus RNG.

Beyond that, yes, much of the game is intended to fairly easily completed by everyone... until you hit end tier stuff, such as this new fishing rod. It's no longer 'casual' focused, it exists for those dedicated to achieving it, and nowhere is it implied that they intend for everyone to get it at all, much less while it's still the best gear. This situation is much the same as Atma: designed for people to do in their own time, without any heavy group or skill walls, but not something that they expect all players to actually complete.

Yes, I'm sure it's frustrating, and no, I haven't done the fishing grinds, so I can't say that it shouldn't be at all easier, just that it's likely not intended to be at all 'casual' in terms of time dedication.

[Xystic]

Yes, I'm sure it's frustrating, and no, I haven't done the fishing grinds, so I can't say that it shouldn't be at all easier, just that it's likely not intended to be at all 'casual' in terms of time dedication.

It's pretty casual. You just go out there during the right conditions and you press 2 buttons. Its almost like real fishing that its pretty much luck if you catch anything even on the best fishing conditions. Its casual enough that you can sit back, enjoy the scenario, a brat in one hand and a drink in the other, literally.