1.17 > 1.18 = 3+ months. 1.18 > 1.19 = ???

[Starlord]

So, we finally back to what the thread was about?

Day by day basis is meaningless, but when the month by month basis keeps proving to be unsatisfactory there is a problem.

Comparisons are not ridiculous. The market doesn't tolerate excuses. Either you are competitive or you go down crashing. SE is an underdog but the market economy doesn't give a damn. Can't make magic happen? Go bankrupt then.

Tsunamis, new managements, new development schedules...it's all meaningless to capitalism. And I want this game to succeed, knowing this makes me concerned. There are no excuses.

All this explains why you don't understand what SE is up against and take nothing into Consideration my dear friend.. I call it Impatient.

[Betelgeuzah]

All this explains why you don't understand what SE is up against and take nothing into Consideration my dear friend.. I call it Impatient.

Ever since the May letter telling us to wait until mid-June I haven't given enough of a damn to be impatient. 1.18 coming in a week? Cool I guess. 1.19 in 3 months? Whatever really.

all I want is for the game to succeed, and this pace isn't going to make it happen regardless of how many hurdles they must go through. Only that concerns me. The patches could come every half a year for all I care as long as they have meaningful impact.

Did you just make this thread to argue? You start off talking about how they've delayed the patches and how this seems to indicate the future patches will be off-schedule. Some agrees with you and you start white-knighting. Did I miss something here?

Yes you did: the reality is not black-and-white. People agree with me and say other things that are not true, which I disagree with.

[Shipp]

Yes you did: the reality is not black-and-white. People agree with me and say other things that are not true, which I disagree with.

So let's get this straight. You make a thread saying you don't think 1.19 will release on time. You make statements about 1.18 being delayed. We both state the exact same thing in this regard. I make a statement about how they are not moving "fast in comparison", I make a statement about how there is something wrong with the dev cycle, and I make a statement about how it's perfectly acceptable to compare them to other MMO devs.

What are you disagreeing with me about?

Game development 101:

Implementing systems = fundamental for progress -- If you get your systems implemented you have the ground work laid out to expand it even faster and further as the initial implementation is always the hurdle. Battle system overhauls and implementing the raid system and grand companies = fundamentals to expand the game.

Remember, Fundamental means the core of something, so having a core raid system in place is indeed fundamental.

"Core raid system in place" does not amount to implementing two full raids which have delayed the actual battle changes from being implemented. The core raid system would be the entrance to the raid, the ability to make a group size that the raid allows, and things of that nature. Core != full implementation.

[Betelgeuzah]

So let's get this straight. You make a thread saying you don't think 1.19 will release on time. You make statements about 1.18 being delayed. We both state the exact same thing in this regard. I make a statement about how they are not moving "fast in comparison", I make a statement about how there is something wrong with the dev cycle, and I make a statement about how it's perfectly acceptable to compare them to other MMO devs.

What are you disagreeing with me about?

You were saying that it shouldn't take this long to get them started on fixing the game. I disagreed.

But frankly it had more to do with your statement limiting their development to few features currently being implemented. Of course if they were to only develop basic AA and shake up enmity it wouldn't take this long.

Either way, for developing many features at once 3 months is a looong time to spend for balancing few of them. Which makes me suspect their QA team is insufficient for the task at hand.