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    Healers are not OP. Every time I see someone complaining about healers..it's usually when it's more than two healers in a party. Of course they will be difficult to kill..but that doesn't make them OP. Healers already suffer enough in pvp. The tiniest poke will interrupt their cast. Catch a healer alone? You have a pretty big chance of downing them..just due to that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seoulstar View Post
    Catch a healer alone? You have a pretty big chance of downing them..just due to that.
    If people are playing their jobs right, you can't 1v1 a healer.
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    Really though, healers aren't OP it's just new players lacking experience. But I would say if anything has pushed healers closer to being, OP it's the reduced stun times. It's making things far, far too easy on healer now. I pretty much never die on whm due to it.. it just gives you so much more breathing room... that and new players making you stun immune within 10 seconds of engaging combat :lol:
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    Last edited by tehomegaking; 04-28-2015 at 04:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tehomegaking View Post
    Really though, healers aren't OP it's just bads being bads. But I would say if anything has pushed healers closer to being, OP it's the reduced stun times. It's making things far, far too easy on healer now. I pretty much never die on whm due to it.. it just gives you so much more breathing room... that and noobs making you stun immune within 10 seconds of engaging combat :lol:
    I think it's more attributed to bad melee who are like HURR DURR I SPINESHATUR DIVE U NOW right off the bat and occasionally PLDs who don't know how to set up their stun locks. That said a proper PLD stun lock is still the bane of a healer's existence. It's nice that they gave healers so much more room for error though, I really felt for them in the Den.
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    Last edited by Atreus; 08-08-2014 at 10:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaisha View Post
    If people are playing their jobs right, you can't 1v1 a healer.
    You can if you can stunlock them....or if their PvP cooldowns are down. We don't ALWAYS have all our skills up and ready....maybe that healer just finished soloing 1:1 and now needed time to rest but didn't get it....maybe that healer was pressured and ran 'back to safety' only to find their team not there. Stuff happens.

    Still, if the other person also plays their role right, it's a 50/50 who will win. People just get eaten by a healer and automatically think 'OP' ....because the healer didn't lay down and die...you're not going beat down EVERY healer...if you did, then your role would be 'OP'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinseykinz View Post
    People just get eaten by a healer and automatically think 'OP' ....because the healer didn't lay down and die...you're not going beat down EVERY healer...if you did, then your role would be 'OP'
    people wont be satisfied until healers are nerfed down to just that ... squishy healers. then they'll be right back on these forums complaining about they can't take down a base because they keep wiping since their healers die too fast and they can never stay alive. people will never be satisfied.

    what's that saying about the grass being greener?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gor View Post
    people wont be satisfied until healers are nerfed down to just that ... squishy healers. then they'll be right back on these forums complaining about they can't take down a base because they keep wiping since their healers die too fast and they can never stay alive. people will never be satisfied.

    what's that saying about the grass being greener?

    I find the only issue with healers is that they can easily all camp the middle and spam AoE healing. Locking one down is relatively easy but it's perhaps a little problematic when they have 4 healers. But at the same time as this, once you get the point that's it they aint getting it back easy. Perhaps the problem is that people focus way to much on healers, and leave BLMs and maybe SMNs alone which obv you're gunna get wasted which makes loads of healers look good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinseykinz View Post
    You can if you can stunlock them....
    Would have to be a handy stunlock, since WHM always has repose as a backup to recoup (assuming Fluid Aura was on CD), and SCH always has their pet to deal with, in which case trying to stunlock both as a PLD would leave you no room to DPS.

    Most situations you'll see a healer solo are when they're holding a flag, which is when they'll be sitting with full buffs. If you catch one after they just killed another person trying to claim the flag, you can bet your bottom that their team already has a couple members otw to assist.
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    Last edited by Kaisha; 08-10-2014 at 09:11 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaisha View Post
    If people are playing their jobs right, you can't 1v1 a healer.
    I've killed people as a healer..and I've been killed as a healer in 1v1's. So yes, it's very possible to 1 vs 1 a healer.
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    Anyway as SCH I saw that if people focus u, and REALLY focus u, you can do really few things if other healers don't heal and protect (Stoneskin/galvanaize).
    Infact usually I suggest to my party to subdivide all the healers among 2 or 3 designed DPS (usually bard) in order to interrupt, and the rest of the party will focus 1st marked.
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