SMN to BLM

[Sen_Terrechant]

Do I have to use garuda end game??? What if I want to use Ifrit only? I'm thinking I would get allot of people telling me to use garuda. I keep up on my dots faithfully so contagion would not be a big loss to me.

Contagion isnt really a DPS increase by itself aside from extended a Raging Strikes DoT. Its a DPS increase because its times you can just be nuking, AND it helps conserve mana.
Ifrit is fine in some fights, but a rule of thumb is anything where the boss isnt a stationary dummy or in fights he would easily die- just use Garuda

[drmambo1999]

Contagion isnt really a DPS increase by itself aside from extended a Raging Strikes DoT. Its a DPS increase because its times you can just be nuking, AND it helps conserve mana.
Ifrit is fine in some fights, but a rule of thumb is anything where the boss isnt a stationary dummy or in fights he would easily die- just use Garuda

I would have to agree. I haven't gotten my SMN to 50 yet, but since Garuda is ranged and does good damage, over all I would imagine she would be best in most end game scenarios. If you have to focus on healing ifrit because he is taking too much damage that would take from your dps as well. I have yet to play end game with SMN so I can't say for certain but I imagine myself at least using garuda in most fights, or Titan (less so on him though as he is more of a tank than a damage dealer.) Like said above though, depends on the situation.

[Vallhallix]

I too started out as a SMN. I was the biggest SMN fanboy too. I guess once you go BLM you don't go back. BLM is superior in almost everyway. Crowd control, AOE pretty much infinite mana. There's not a situation BLM doesn't rule in. PvP, Mobs, single target. Ive had much better experiences in all these situations with my BLM than I did my SMN.

The drawback to SMN all its damage is build up over time, its one burst ability requires aether. BLM getting procs can do double the amount of fester switch to blizz 3 and do it all over again while fester is still on cd. SMNs one big burst AoE is tied to the pet Garuda and has a hefty cd making it pretty much useless in battle. Its basically like a weaker Flare with a cd.

As a SMN I always felt weak. I was a good SMN and still did great dps but it always felt puny. I felt like I had to do too much work just to do half the equal damage other classes such as BLM do and more. As a BLM I feel STRONK. BLM takes down enemies fast with no remorse.

[Empressia]

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then by all means get urself a dps meter and watch HOW FREAKING FAR SUM DPS > BLM DPS

[ChaozK]

then by all means get urself a dps meter and watch HOW FREAKING FAR SUM DPS > BLM DPS

Well tbf not anymore post BLM buffs.

[Dwill]

As a SMN I always felt weak. I was a good SMN and still did great dps but it always felt puny.

That statement is so contradictory. 400 DPS while with a lot of little numbers that adds up or 400 DPS with a few hard hitting skills is still 400 DPS in the end.

[drmambo1999]

That statement is so contradictory. 400 DPS while with a lot of little numbers that adds up or 400 DPS with a few hard hitting skills is still 400 DPS in the end.

Yeah, but I do see what he is saying here. I went from SMN to BLM and "visually" there is a difference on how we perceive the damage being done. It is all just burst though. I noticed immediately that I was killing things faster as a SMN at the time though. I like both classes. There are some scenarios where I prefer my BLM and others where SMN shines. Burst is nice for killing adds off quickly while the DOTs SMNs have are nice for the over all fight. We all have our roles so People should play what they want and be content knowing that. I would personally like something....anything done in a patch that might help make it a bit easier for a BLM to catch up with over all DPS in end game though.

[Dwill]

I would personally like something....anything done in a patch that might help make it a bit easier for a BLM to catch up with over all DPS in end game though.

Black Mages are fine with damage right now.

[drmambo1999]

Black Mages are fine with damage right now.

Lol. I have been enjoying my run as BLM so what I said above isn't an immediate need, to be clear. However, I am still running into debates on the damage issue. I am also having issue getting into some parties because the general opinion of said party is that BLM DPS is "bad". Perhaps this is just a carry over from before the fix. I play on ps4, so I don't have means to parse my DPS. I have tried asking around for a PC player to, but no such luck yet. I feel as if I do decent damage in fights that I have been in, including my (FINALLY) first attempt at T5, but I guess I am just remaining skeptical because of the occasional turn aways I have gotten because of my Job. Perhaps with time that will die down. At any rate, my opinion on OP's topic here is, play what makes the game fun for you.

[Dwill]

Lol. I have been enjoying my run as BLM so what I said above isn't an immediate need, to be clear. However, I am still running into debates on the damage issue. I am also having issue getting into some parties because the general opinion of said party is that BLM DPS is "bad". Perhaps this is just a carry over from before the fix. I play on ps4, so I don't have means to parse my DPS. I have tried asking around for a PC player to, but no such luck yet. I feel as if I do decent damage in fights that I have been in, including my (FINALLY) first attempt at T5, but I guess I am just remaining skeptical because of the occasional turn aways I have gotten because of my Job. Perhaps with time that will die down. At any rate, my opinion on OP's topic here is, play what makes the game fun for you.

And plenty of people in-game think that Summoner do terrible damage and that Bards top the meters. What the general in-game populace think about the damage that each job outputs is irrelevant when there are factual numbers that contradicts their opinion.

If you're a good Black Mage, your damage is perfectly fine.