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    Do I have to use garuda end game??? What if I want to use Ifrit only? I'm thinking I would get allot of people telling me to use garuda. I keep up on my dots faithfully so contagion would not be a big loss to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by velric42 View Post
    Do I have to use garuda end game??? What if I want to use Ifrit only? I'm thinking I would get allot of people telling me to use garuda. I keep up on my dots faithfully so contagion would not be a big loss to me.
    IMO it really depends on the fight. I play on PS3 so i don't parse myself but I'm told I am higher on T8 with Ifrit then Garuda so obviously he is a viable option and you don't only have to use Garuda.
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    I too started out as a SMN. I was the biggest SMN fanboy too. I guess once you go BLM you don't go back. BLM is superior in almost everyway. Crowd control, AOE pretty much infinite mana. There's not a situation BLM doesn't rule in. PvP, Mobs, single target. Ive had much better experiences in all these situations with my BLM than I did my SMN.

    The drawback to SMN all its damage is build up over time, its one burst ability requires aether. BLM getting procs can do double the amount of fester switch to blizz 3 and do it all over again while fester is still on cd. SMNs one big burst AoE is tied to the pet Garuda and has a hefty cd making it pretty much useless in battle. Its basically like a weaker Flare with a cd.

    As a SMN I always felt weak. I was a good SMN and still did great dps but it always felt puny. I felt like I had to do too much work just to do half the equal damage other classes such as BLM do and more. As a BLM I feel STRONK. BLM takes down enemies fast with no remorse.
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    Last edited by Vallhallix; 08-11-2014 at 10:54 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vallhallix View Post
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    then by all means get urself a dps meter and watch HOW FREAKING FAR SUM DPS > BLM DPS
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    Quote Originally Posted by Empressia View Post
    then by all means get urself a dps meter and watch HOW FREAKING FAR SUM DPS > BLM DPS
    Well tbf not anymore post BLM buffs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vallhallix View Post
    As a SMN I always felt weak. I was a good SMN and still did great dps but it always felt puny.
    That statement is so contradictory. 400 DPS while with a lot of little numbers that adds up or 400 DPS with a few hard hitting skills is still 400 DPS in the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwill View Post
    That statement is so contradictory. 400 DPS while with a lot of little numbers that adds up or 400 DPS with a few hard hitting skills is still 400 DPS in the end.
    Yeah, but I do see what he is saying here. I went from SMN to BLM and "visually" there is a difference on how we perceive the damage being done. It is all just burst though. I noticed immediately that I was killing things faster as a SMN at the time though. I like both classes. There are some scenarios where I prefer my BLM and others where SMN shines. Burst is nice for killing adds off quickly while the DOTs SMNs have are nice for the over all fight. We all have our roles so People should play what they want and be content knowing that. I would personally like something....anything done in a patch that might help make it a bit easier for a BLM to catch up with over all DPS in end game though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drmambo1999 View Post
    I would personally like something....anything done in a patch that might help make it a bit easier for a BLM to catch up with over all DPS in end game though.
    Black Mages are fine with damage right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwill View Post
    Black Mages are fine with damage right now.
    Lol. I have been enjoying my run as BLM so what I said above isn't an immediate need, to be clear. However, I am still running into debates on the damage issue. I am also having issue getting into some parties because the general opinion of said party is that BLM DPS is "bad". Perhaps this is just a carry over from before the fix. I play on ps4, so I don't have means to parse my DPS. I have tried asking around for a PC player to, but no such luck yet. I feel as if I do decent damage in fights that I have been in, including my (FINALLY) first attempt at T5, but I guess I am just remaining skeptical because of the occasional turn aways I have gotten because of my Job. Perhaps with time that will die down. At any rate, my opinion on OP's topic here is, play what makes the game fun for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwill View Post
    That statement is so contradictory. 400 DPS while with a lot of little numbers that adds up or 400 DPS with a few hard hitting skills is still 400 DPS in the end.
    This is only in drawn out fights. A BLM will dispatch an enemy before a SMN has everything set up. This coming from someone who tested it. Both classes equally geared both with Animus. SMN does well in long fights, not so much dispatching enemies swiftly which is very necessary for dps checks. If you have both a SMN and BLM attacking a single enemy both starting at the exact same time the BLM would have either killed or have the enemy at 25% health by the time it takes a SMN to get all dots up, shadow flare and fester. Even in drawn out fights i'd still give it to BLM for being able to dispatch enemies faster. A SMN is sort of horrible getting rid of adds in dps checks. They have to do much more work just to do equal dmg output as others at base. I think SMN only advantage is when there's heavy mechanics involved that require constant moving but even then a BLM is able to pop manward/wall and eat the damage. Thats why BLM has those skills it was meant to sit and eat some damage while getting some good burst dmg in. There's also the chance of that you'll get procs. Ive gotten them while running many times and they're instant so moving is a non issue. SMN is a good class but ultimately I prefer having other DPS with me as many don't know how to play a SMN at its maximum potential.
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    Last edited by Vallhallix; 08-13-2014 at 06:26 AM.

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