The Black Mage Rotations

[YanderePrincess]

Now, in contrast, there are moments where you may have seen your spell land, but the damage was not displayed, likely due to (but not limited to) an invulnerability mechanic, or instance of leaving the arena.
In this scenario, where your damage was not displayed, is where your Fire III <> Blizzard III transition has the small probability of you being left with neither buff.

The odd thing here is, the times I'm losing AF3 and not gaining UI3, I'm seeing my damage value pop up. There are occasions where I don't see a damage value pop up like you're describing, but I either get the full switch to Umbral Ice III (in the case of a mob dying as my spell lands) or I stay in AF3 (in the case of a mob being invulnerable). I've attributed the lack of a damage value popping up on occasion to a graphical oddity (though this has only really been an issue since 2.3 as well) because it's not limited to when a mob dies/goes invuln (in which case I usually get the "invulnerable message," though not 100% of the time, though I do always get the sound effect).

[LetBloodline]

You are missing the big point.
B3 cast is halfed. So it's not even a GCD. There is no way that a bulb your party could kill in that spam time 10% of time with 0 dps from you NEED your b3 damage to die. We are not talking about 20% hp here. You didn't see that bulb's hp where much lower and that you where not needed. You took wrong target. And if your party have trouble with bulbs use a well timed SC + flare since a) it hitting 2 targets will make up for not having convert b) make bulb die faster

[YanderePrincess]

You are missing the big point.
B3 cast is halfed. So it's not even a GCD. There is no way that a bulb your party could kill in that spam time 10% of time with 0 dps from you NEED your b3 damage to die. We are not talking about 20% hp here. You didn't see that bulb's hp where much lower and that you where not needed. You took wrong target. And if your party have trouble with bulbs use a well timed SC + flare since a) it hitting 2 targets will make up for not having convert b) make bulb die faster

You really are illiterate, aren't you? I said very clearly that the mob is over 50% hp when I start my cast. Normally, it takes at least a full Fire I cast to finish the bulb, with the damage from my spell figured in. But on rare occasions, my party gets their damage spikes through crits/bloodletter procs/etc and gets killed significantly faster. It's a very rare occurance, but it does lead to the bug happening when it happens. Eventually, as my static's gear improves, this'll be less likely to occur, but it's still a bug that can on occasion cause problems and people should be aware of.

Now, get over yourself and stop accusing me of doing things wrong when I know for an absolute fact that I'm doing what needs to be done for the situation, and accept the warning about the bug for what it is.

[LetBloodline]

You really are illiterate, aren't you? I said very clearly that the mob is over 50% hp when I start my cast. Normally, it takes at least a full Fire I cast to finish the bulb, with the damage from my spell figured in. But on rare occasions, my party gets their damage spikes through crits/bloodletter procs/etc and gets killed significantly faster. It's a very rare occurance, but it does lead to the bug happening when it happens. Eventually, as my static's gear improves, this'll be less likely to occur, but it's still a bug that can on occasion cause problems and people should be aware of.

Now, get over yourself and stop accusing me of doing things wrong when I know for an absolute fact that I'm doing what needs to be done for the situation, and accept the warning about the bug for what it is.

Why you are the only one who get his rotation screwed? Ask that to yourself

[Synovius]

So I just read through 2-3 pages of the argument behind LetBloodline and YanderePrincess. After the 10 minutes or so it took to read through it all, I've determined your argument is retarded. You're literally arguing over whether it's okay to end a fight with Blizzard III or whether you should Scathe instead and then just Transpose. I mean, thanks for the bumps, but for @#^!s sake...

[YanderePrincess]

Why you are the only one who get his rotation screwed? Ask that to yourself

Her, not his. And I highly doubt I'm the only one. However, it is a rare occurrence, even for me, and the times when it's most likely going to happen are times when it doesn't really make a big difference/can easily go unnoticed (such as thinking you simply let AF3 run out). A lot of people who have encountered it very likely just wrote it off without really caring what happened. When something in my rotation goes wrong, however, I seek out the cause and try to find a fix for it or at least understand why it's happening so I can know when it might happen and be prepared for it. The fact that it also happened in a situation where it caused a significant issue just made me more determined to find the cause.

[YanderePrincess]

So I just read through 2-3 pages of the argument behind LetBloodline and YanderePrincess. After the 10 minutes or so it took to read through it all, I've determined your argument is retarded. You're literally arguing over whether it's okay to end a fight with Blizzard III or whether you should Scathe instead and then just Transpose. I mean, thanks for the bumps, but for @#^!s sake...

Actually, we're arguing about whether or not a fairly significant (though rarely occurring) bug exists. What you said we're arguing about isn't even -remotely- what we're arguing about, so maybe you should look in the mirror before you call anyone else retarded.

[Devaking55]

Why would I flare without convert?

And this problem doesn't just occur on bulbs. That's just an example of where it can actually be problematic. The problem with the phase shift shouldn't exist, and never existed before 2.3

Wait you don't flare off swiftcast after a fire 3 proc? Hmmmmmmm

[LetBloodline]

Her, not his. And I highly doubt I'm the only one. However, it is a rare occurrence, even for me, and the times when it's most likely going to happen are times when it doesn't really make a big difference/can easily go unnoticed (such as thinking you simply let AF3 run out). A lot of people who have encountered it very likely just wrote it off without really caring what happened. When something in my rotation goes wrong, however, I seek out the cause and try to find a fix for it or at least understand why it's happening so I can know when it might happen and be prepared for it. The fact that it also happened in a situation where it caused a significant issue just made me more determined to find the cause.

Easy answer. You miscalculated remaning life of mob

[YanderePrincess]

Easy answer. You miscalculated remaning life of mob

Nope. I know that there's a ~10% chance when I start my Blizz III that it'll die about the time it lands. As I said, however, I have to risk that because the other 90% of the time, that spellcast is required to be sure the bulb dies in time. There's no miscalculation at all, but rather a calculated risk, that wasn't even a significant risk until 2.3 changed some things.

And, regardless, the bug is significant enough that being aware of it and letting other blms know to watch out for it is worthwhile.