The Black Mage Rotations

[FurryFury]

You will do overall more damage by including Fire II. In the very short term, yes, going straight to Flare is a little higher DPS, but if the enemy is going to survive long enough for you to need to use Transpose, you'll want to include the Fire IIs.

Thats a big IF right there, imo. On small mob packs most groups will have at least one non-AoE DPS, so with long (4 GCDs till 1st Flare) opener some mobs will be dead before Flare, wasting its potential.

[Synovius]

I agree the math comes out that Fire II in the middle makes for more theoretical DPS but in real situations, I don't use Fire II at all as back to back Flares with the mana tick glitch fit very comfortably between Transposes. This is the AoE rotation I always use once in AF3:

Flare==>Transpose==>(wait 2s from first mana tick)==>Flare

That's it. The only time I use a Fire II or something in between is when I'm going to Swiftcast the second Flare thus leaving me with a couple seconds to spare before Transpose is up.

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[EikoCeuracanth]

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couldn't have said it better myself.

[Maero]

I agree the math comes out that Fire II in the middle makes for more theoretical DPS but in real situations, I don't use Fire II at all as back to back Flares with the mana tick glitch fit very comfortably between Transposes. This is the AoE rotation I always use once in AF3:

Flare==>Transpose==>(wait 2s from first mana tick)==>Flare

Problem now is with lag i assume because of 2.2, i do not even get a mana tick after transpose, have to wait longer and then am forced to use ice multiple times just to get some mana back.
Pre 2.2 it worked perfect so i agree with your rotation^, lol

[IrealiTY]

Whats your avg dps on Titan EX and or the other primals?

[Qvoth]

what's the best way to put raging strikes into our rotation?

[Synovius]

Whats your avg dps on Titan EX and or the other primals?

Titan EX can be a bit tricky for BLM but once you are really comfortable with the timings it gets much better. At my gear level of i92, I'm seeing around 220-250 DPS on Titan EX with the best parse I've ever pulled on it being somewhere around 275 (not likely to happen again). For Garuda, you can get much higher than this. For Ifrit, I would expect around the same numbers as Titan Ex - perhaps even a bit lower.

what's the best way to put raging strikes into our rotation?

You should use Raging Strikes at the start of your rotation's Astral Fire phase. For example, on my opener, I go:

Blizzard III ==> Thunder II ==> Fire III ==> Raging Strikes ==> Fire I spam

Because that Fire III is at half cast time, you can almost fit the Raging Strikes into the GCD that's still going after Fire III before starting in with your Fire I spam (almost - you'll still miss a split second of time before starting your first Fire I).

For uses of Raging Strikes later in the fight, I either use it similarly to the above, or I will attempt to use it immediately after a Firestarter proc is used but while I still have a good amount of mana for Fire I spam (since Fire III is instant with Firestarter meaning that you are GCD locked anyway).


Also, I'm updating the OP with ACC levels for the new turns of Coil just for reference.

[Maero]

I usually use Raging strikes before i will start bombarding with fire so Raging Strikes> Fire3> F1, etc.
I now get a mana tick after transpose so glad it is working again
And Synovius i pretty much have the same rotation as you have posted ^
Definately use if Fire Procs

[Goldhawk]

I'm not at endgame yet, but will pick up these rotations when i do get there (really only use flare and transpose for Aoe?)

But these are my rotations for my level (39)

(I will be using bliz 3, thunder 2, fire 3 from now on. didn't know about the free fire)

Single Target (my level): Thunder 2 > Fire 3> spam fire 1 > bliz 3 > reapply thunder 2 if necessary > Bliz 1 until full MP > repeat

Single Target (lower level and can't use all spells): Thunder 2 > Fire 1 > scathe > transpose > bliz 1 > scathe > transpose > repeat (use thunder 2 on ice if i can)

(btw i'm not gettitng half cast time for fire 3 with umbral 2)

Multi Target (my level): Thunder 2 on one or more mobs > fire 2 > Transpose > freeze > transpose > repeat

[Waliel]

Something that might help, if you're having trouble doing double Flare consistently: it takes 1.9 seconds give or take for the ice orb to do a full rotation around you; close enough to always get a mana tick after Flare from what I tested for a few minutes straight.