Is this the repair system players' wanted?

[Reika]

See here's the problem:

It was never 100% designed for people to be self sufficient in this regard, it was designed that it pushed people to seek out/make friends/etc with DoH folks. However given the highly anti-social nature of this game it was a given that people made things harder than it needed to be.

Maybe some people really want FFXIV to be an anti-social single player game....

[Reika]

Did you even think for a SECOND, that they might turn all your so hardly crafted and now going to waste materials into the dark matter corresponding to that rank range? Like Cavnas Fents turning into Dark Matter for R 21-30...

Just as an example...they also announced that recipes will be redone(although they said 1.19 before, the repair post indicates there will be changes in 1.18 already) so what if your wasted materials get a use after the patch?

Just think...

Wouldnt it be bad if they turned all our nuggets, squares, plates, almost every branch, almost every plank, and some poisons and what not into dark matter? They are used for other things :P I sure hope they dont do that. Even Fents are used in some crafting recipies, so it would be bad for those too.

[Biggs]

If they're nerfing the repair system so much why don't they just get rid of it? >.>

Because repairs will be directly linked to dying penalities now. Each time you die and return without a raise, you take a quality hit on all your gear. This is meant to give death signifigance and encourage others to use raise. I think this is just a portion of change to the repair system that is leading to something bigger and we should hold judgment until 1.19 when they do the crafting overhauls.

[darkstarpoet1]

Wouldnt it be bad if they turned all our nuggets, squares, plates, almost every branch, almost every plank, and some poisons and what not into dark matter? They are used for other things :P I sure hope they dont do that. Even Fents are used in some crafting recipies, so it would be bad for those too.

i believe i understood him to mean that we could craft our old repair mats into the dark matter to be used as a new repair mat. i don't think he was saying they would instantly use them and force them to become dark matter. if i misunderstood him that is my mistake.

only one fent is used in 1 craft. none of the other fents are used at all at this point. vintage hose unless i missed something is the only item i found that used any fent.

[Reika]

i believe i understood him to mean that we could craft our old repair mats into the dark matter to be used as a new repair mat. i don't think he was saying they would instantly use them and force them to become dark matter. if i misunderstood him that is my mistake.

only one fent is used in 1 craft. none of the other fents are used at all at this point. vintage hose unless i missed something is the only item i found that used any fent.

it would be good if they did it that way, but i read it like it would be automatic if they did.

[Alfortis]

I liked the part where a large majority voted for dark matter......

[kwestro]

I think despeckled crystals will be used to make dark matter. Their abundance might be increased on the next patch. That's my guess.

[Dreadnought]

i dont understand why simplifying repairs is such a big deal to people.
isnt the main idea of crafting to create the gear with reparing it being nothing more than left over icing no one wanted? crafters still get to craft with as much complexity as the gear requires!

i personally never once used a crafter to repair my gear. shouting,waiting, and then locating takes longer than just going to the repair NPC.
actually, im pretty sure the average non-crafter (once the game takes off and populations expand) would rather use the repair NPC over shouting, waiting, and then locating so they can get back to story lines and killing things.

i love the gear crafters can make, but they can sure slow things down if your that dependent on them. (i mean making them just as important to be in battles as well as obtaining/repairing gear, something alot of crafters ive seen want)

[Chezen]

See here's the problem:

It was never 100% designed for people to be self sufficient in this regard, it was designed that it pushed people to seek out/make friends/etc with DoH folks. However given the highly anti-social nature of this game it was a given that people made things harder than it needed to be.

I agree with this fully.

This system might seem like it makes things to convenient...but this only applies to people who are either not playing several different classes at the same time, or they don't repair their stuff themselves.

I play GLA, ARC and THM regularly, while crafting a lot and gathering as a MIN...so I got 5 different gear sets on me at any time.

As I got pretty much everything ranked, I can repair all of my stuff myself...and just to be able to repair all of my stuff myself at any time, I need to carry around 13 slots of repair mats in my inventory...these include

Iron Nugget
Steel Nugget
Brass Nugget
Silver Nugget
Electrum Nugget
Iron Square
Buffalo Leather Spetch
Raptor Leather Spetch
Boar Leather Spetch
Chamois Spetch
Oak Branch
Canvas Fent
Velveteen Fent

As much as I don't mind the repair system at all as it is right now, the Dark Matter makes things convenient in a good way and ANYBODY who is not able to repair ALL of their stuff themselves while playing several classes equally should not be allowed to have a word in this cause they are not even effected by this.

When you need to carry around 10-15 repair items at once to repair all of your shit, then you can have a word on this matter...otherwise I'll recognize you as a troll.

I am a 99% solo player. I play several classes, and level every craft. And I completely disagree with this.

I do not carry everything at once. What I don't have I make or buy when needed. If I can't fix it, I put it up in the MW. Were I were in a permanent group, I would be co-ordinating who had what, and working together to cover the repairs.

I would not have disagreed with this if they were just simplifying it a little or changing it to something smoother yet still somewhat complex, but I feel they have completely gutted it and took out a portion of the game that had some depth to it. It's a system that was supposed to work best with friends, but still doable solo or with strangers.

The system they are implementing now will make people more independent than I personally believe will be good for the game. Yes I solo, but I want to see this game have a good community, and for that, some dependence on each other is necessary. The crafting and repair system was an excellent way to accomplish that without going to the other extreme and making it impossible to do anything alone.

[darkstarpoet1]

it would be good if they did it that way, but i read it like it would be automatic if they did.

yeah, that's why i used the statement to him about i try not to think about how they would implement a system by using logic because the other way would be logical, but i can bet that's not how it is put in. i go by what they say and from what they say they have alot of people not liking the move for different reasons.

my reason for disliking it would be that simple fix, but quite frankly, i doubt they can think logically much less be able to implement it with that thought process.