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  1. #41
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    Yukiko's Avatar
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    Yukihko Kuroshima
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    Ragnarok
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    Summoner Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Senfei View Post
    Hunts are so easy to do and the barrier to entry is imaginary. Make your own Hunt LS, goto hunts, invite players. Make a PF, invite everyone in the PT to it. People will accept. Soon, you will have a network of people helping you find hunting targets. You may not like the system, thats fine. Just seriously, answer the question. If this content is so bad, what would you want to give allied seals? You offered nothing except some offhand remark about how i'm probably elitist.
    Next you will say i need to change server...
    I am getting sick of such arguments, because hunts are not broken on your server it doesnt mean its working on others!
    STOP giving any seals from hunts, that will fix it and we will see who is really enjoying it and who just have a big mouth...
    You should not ask yourself if the content is so bad, you should ask yourself WHY you are doing it?

    S Rank down in less than 1 Minute, maybe i stream it... you will not believe how many players actually gather even when instant pulling... its just ridicules!
    Telling us "all is fine with the content" is like a slap in the face...
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  2. #42
    Player Mjytresz's Avatar
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    Casval Daikun
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    Adamantoise
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Senfei View Post
    Unfortunately no, I wasn't. I actually really like that aspect of the game, that casual players can obtain high lvl gear with relative ease even if it is not "the best". Thats probably because I don't even do coil myself. You see, my point was that you have two distinct options, both very different, to obtain these items. One is super casual, one is much more hardcore in terms of playstyle and effort. I am having serious issues grasping how people are sitting here whining day and night about hunts when the system is honestly -not that bad-. People cried for open world content basically since the release of the game, and somewhere in there they forgot that open world content meant everyone can participate (and would, if it is was worth doing).

    Hunts are so easy todo and the barrier to entry is imaginary. Make your own Hunt LS, goto hunts, invite players. Make a PF, invite everyone in the PT to it. People will accept. Soon, you will have a network of people helping you find hunting targets. You may not like the system, thats fine. Just seriously, answer the question. If this content is so bad, what would you want to give allied seals? You offered nothing except some offhand remark about how i'm probably elitist.
    The point is that Coil isn't even qualified to be an option when, even if you actually have a job and can't afford to sit on your ass for 4-5 hours a day, hunts are still more effective in the same time span. They're more effective in a shorter time span too.
    It's not an option when there's no reason to pursue it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Purplenum View Post
    You're not doing much to help your own argument.
    I see no counter-argument presented.
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  3. #43
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    CeeTwo's Avatar
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    Lil Asstr
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Mjytresz View Post
    The point is that Coil isn't even qualified to be an option when, even if you actually have a job and can't afford to sit on your ass for 4-5 hours a day, hunts are still more effective in the same time span. They're more effective in a shorter time span too.
    It's not an option when there's no reason to pursue it.



    I see no counter-argument presented.
    Coil has 115 Weapons...

    Also has 110 non soldiery gear you can wear so you don't look like a bad player. When I see people in full soldiery gear it screams scrub.

    Seems like a plenty qualified option to me.
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    Last edited by CeeTwo; 08-05-2014 at 08:02 AM.

  4. #44
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    Duelle's Avatar
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    Duelle Urelle
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    Diabolos
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Merylx View Post
    You are so lazy. I can't even... just WOW
    Not wanting to wander a zone killing hunt mobs does not equal lazy. 375 soldiery tomes is a bit low (I'd suggest something like 500+), but let's not pretend things aren't bottlenecked at hunts, especially since sands cannot be obtained from ST yet.
    (2)
    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

  5. #45
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    All of these posts are so funny, arguing about 110 gear you could have gotten months ago if only you just did ScoB. This is what happens when you wait for the handout gear.

    Why do you need 110 gear anyway if you don't do coil? I highly doubt you'll be using all that token gear in new coils considering 95% of you haven't cleared t9 yet, and won't have access to it.

    You want the hand out gear? do the hunts. Stop asking for it to be even easier.
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  6. #46
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    Tom Laeplight
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Mjytresz View Post
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    You never presented an counter-argument for me to counter, but thanks for the ad hominem anyways.

    I'll humor your attempt anyways so allow me to first reiterate a point I previously brought up before going on: SE is making gear more readily available now that it's going to be deprecated once again within the next two months. Think back when the game started when the weekly myth cap was 300 and the highest item level was 90 (with the exception of the allagan weapons at i95) for a while that's the highest gear there was. In 2.1 they raised the myth cap to 450 I believe, and eventually took it off entirely. Why did they do this? To make myth gear more readily available. Then in 2.2 they made T1-5 farmable. Why would they do this? It's the same answer. Old gear was becoming deprecated and with the new gear coming in there was no point in keeping restrictions on the older loot. That's exactly what they are doing now.
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    Last edited by Purplenum; 08-05-2014 at 08:10 AM.

  7. #47
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    Daiza Auvec
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    Behemoth
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    White Mage Lv 80
    This is hilarious.

    People complain that hunts are choking out the dungeon aspect of the game yet be damned if they allowed sands to come from Soldiery.

    Personally I see no reason why sands aren't buyable with soldiery, especially since they are available with hunts.
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  8. #48
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    Ghasto's Avatar
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    Marina Amrita
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    Adamantoise
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    2.2 had it right by limiting sands and oil to Second Coil.
    Hopefully 2.4 does the same thing, but doesn't back down like 2.3 did.
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  9. #49
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    Volcano's Avatar
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    Infernia Heart
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    Famfrit
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    Conjurer Lv 87
    Quote Originally Posted by CeeTwo View Post
    Coil has 115 Weapons...

    Also has 110 non soldiery gear you can wear so you don't look like a bad player. When I see people in full soldiery gear it screams scrub.

    Seems like a plenty qualified option to me.
    This makes no sense, all soldiery gear is is alternate stats, the fact is they can still clear the same content as your high allagan geared people just slightly slower. gear does not equal skill. and tbh unless you are doing coil only being fully geared in high allagan does not make you kings of FFXIV, this is just typical elitism attitude with that comment.

    Futhermore, how does someone look like a "bad player" being in the same ilvl gear just from a different source, You make no sense. so the LOOK of gear makes you a bad player now? what.
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  10. #50
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Sands of Time for 2000 Soldiery, why not
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