WHY ARE YOU PLAYING A BARD IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SING?!

[Darki]

My OP was towards paeon's and ballad, I will gladly play foe requiem, as for somethig that hinders my dps while I'm already doing more dps than the other 3 combined, is a big no.

Jobs are given roles, tanking in mmo's has and always be tanking everything and mitigation, you might think it is there just to help but it's apart of it's main role, healing as always been about healing and keeping everyone alive, maintaining that until the win. Dps has and always been to do damage and maintain it.

A DPS's job being to maintain damage is correct. However, your forgetting what a bard is. A while back (like 5 big updates ago) SE nerfed the bard's damage output in an attempt to get bards to feel more like a utility job rather then a pure damage job. Heck, even a bard's limit break isn't a damage dealing one. The game only has 3 "roles" to label jobs with. It sure as heck isn't a tank or a healer. SE tried (poorly) to make bard more obvious as a support job.

[GalaxyGirl]

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but right now there isn't any support roles yet in duty finder? Right? Until they fix that for bard it'll always be a dps, and I pride myself as being a good damage dealing bard due to my dps, of course I play songs but when it's needed, not when it's magically expected, I'll play foes whenever I can but when you expect a ballad make a macro and ask for it, focusing on dps is a job and it's not soemthing I expect people to understand who don't try to maximize their roles to its absolute potential, as in dps, sorry to sound smart ass

[Darki]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but right now there isn't any support roles yet in duty finder? Right? Until they fix that for bard it'll always be a dps, and I pride myself as being a good damage dealing bard due to my dps, of course I play songs but when it's needed, not when it's magically expected, I'll play foes whenever I can but when you expect a ballad make a macro and ask for it, focusing on dps is a job and it's not soemthing I expect people to understand who don't try to maximize their roles to its absolute potential, as in dps, sorry to sound smart ass

A label doesn't make something so. I could label a Warrior a healer but does it make it a healer? Sing the songs when they are needed. Or perhaps I should throw up cleric stance, ignore healing and "Pride" myself on being a better DPS then whoever. We do what can to help our pt. that is everyone's job. Screw labels.

[GalaxyGirl]

A label doesn't make something so. I could label a Warrior a healer but does it make it a healer? Sing the songs when they are needed. Or perhaps I should throw up cleric stance, ignore healing and "Pride" myself on being a better DPS then whoever. We do what can to help our pt. that is everyone's job. Screw labels.

What, your logic is different and completely different than mine, I'm basing this off the label sqaure enix gave each job accordingly. Healers heal (green icon) dps do damage (red icon) and tanks keep aggro/mitigate (blue icon) bard is a dps (red icon) so they can focus on dps if they want

[Odett]

What, your logic is different and completely different than mine, I'm basing this off the label sqaure enix gave each job accordingly. Healers heal (green icon) dps do damage (red icon) and tanks keep aggro/mitigate (blue icon) bard is a dps (red icon) so they can focus on dps if they want

But if you have the skills that can help your group if the situation arises, then you should use them! Why is that such a hard concept to grasp? Do DPS players forget about their self-healing skills and SMNs refuse to SC Ress because they're not "green icon" so they can just focus on DPS if they want? That's the whole concept of utility, and BRDs just happen to have the most of it. Lack of flexibility will make you a poor group player, no matter how good you claim your DPS to be.

[Darki]

What, your logic is different and completely different than mine, I'm basing this off the label sqaure enix gave each job accordingly. Healers heal (green icon) dps do damage (red icon) and tanks keep aggro/mitigate (blue icon) bard is a dps (red icon) so they can focus on dps if they want

Right, you are saying that because a bard is labeled a DPS that that is what they should *only* be doing. That is not true. Everyone should do what they can to support the pt. I have even seen monks tank with fists of earth and skullsunderer. My logic: labels mean NOTHING.