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    I could see DRK as a tank, but please not SAM. SAM is just not a tank class and I don't see why people keep thinking it should be T_T

    As for Blue Mage for Tank, I think that has the potential to be really interesting. It's certainly not something you would see everyday and would be a refreshing break from the run of the "big weapon meat shield." tank classes we tend to see. At least when it comes to the over all theme of a class.
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    I'd rather see Blue Mage as an all class job crystal (i.e. you could be a Gladiator Blue Mage, Marauder Blue Mage, Lancer Blue Mage, etc.) that allows the wielder to access Blue Magic Skills instead of Cross-class skills and Job abilities. Gaining Blue Magic would be a sidequest similar to Sightseeing and Hunts rather than a normal progression.
    Quote Originally Posted by LillithCale View Post
    I could see DRK as a tank, but please not SAM. SAM is just not a tank class and I don't see why people keep thinking it should be T_T
    Was you primary interaction with the Samurai class/job FFXI? (and even then Samurai gear seems to imply that it was originally intended to be a parry tank) Because in several other FF games they tend to be Heavy Armor Frontliners with slightly less hp then Knights, but better evasion/counter abilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    Was you primary interaction with the Samurai class/job FFXI? (and even then Samurai gear seems to imply that it was originally intended to be a parry tank) Because in several other FF games they tend to be Heavy Armor Frontliners with slightly less hp then Knights, but better evasion/counter abilities.
    Pretty sure FFXI SAM was *supposed* to have been a tank, they just screwed it up. Kind of like Ninja was not supposed to be a tank, but everyone used it as one because utsusemi was ridiculous. Besides, Samurai are basically the Japanese version of the European knight, which is typically thought of as a Tank archetype. There's no reason the SAM can't follow suit.

    DRK, on the other hand makes less sense as a tank. DRK is all about sacrificing his own life in order to wield forbidden power (ie Darkness & Souleater), which is a little more of a stretch (not that they can't, BRD is an archer now, after all).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Giantbane View Post
    Pretty sure FFXI SAM was *supposed* to have been a tank, they just screwed it up. Kind of like Ninja was not supposed to be a tank, but everyone used it as one because utsusemi was ridiculous. Besides, Samurai are basically the Japanese version of the European knight, which is typically thought of as a Tank archetype. There's no reason the SAM can't follow suit.

    DRK, on the other hand makes less sense as a tank. DRK is all about sacrificing his own life in order to wield forbidden power (ie Darkness & Souleater), which is a little more of a stretch (not that they can't, BRD is an archer now, after all).
    To be fair on the bard point, Edward from FFIV could use bows so it's not completely unheard of for a bard to use bows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    I'd rather see Blue Mage as an all class job crystal (i.e. you could be a Gladiator Blue Mage, Marauder Blue Mage, Lancer Blue Mage, etc.) that allows the wielder to access Blue Magic Skills instead of Cross-class skills and Job abilities. Gaining Blue Magic would be a sidequest similar to Sightseeing and Hunts rather than a normal progression.


    Was you primary interaction with the Samurai class/job FFXI? (and even then Samurai gear seems to imply that it was originally intended to be a parry tank) Because in several other FF games they tend to be Heavy Armor Frontliners with slightly less hp then Knights, but better evasion/counter abilities.
    Even in FFXI, SE publicly stated they had wanted SAM to be a tank. Even more reason they'll "do it right" this time by making it what they wanted it to be in a system where it's easier to do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LillithCale View Post
    I could see DRK as a tank, but please not SAM. SAM is just not a tank class and I don't see why people keep thinking it should be T_T

    As for Blue Mage for Tank, I think that has the potential to be really interesting. It's certainly not something you would see everyday and would be a refreshing break from the run of the "big weapon meat shield." tank classes we tend to see. At least when it comes to the over all theme of a class.
    Samurais generally are a tank role in FF games just more debuff focused and less defensive than knight however still have high hp and defense. Also the very nature of a samurai in general is very tank like, the bright colors and decorative armor was to draw attention on the battle field and were about the protection of their masters. DRK on the other hand is all about damage, using it's own HP to deal damage isn't a very tank like thing.
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