WHY ARE YOU PLAYING A BARD IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SING?!

[TheMunimai]

Seriously you're moaning about bards not just jumping on the band wagon and singing songs?

How about asking - yes they have brains and eyes and can sing for themselves, but you have a tongue - well fingers in this case - USE THEM and stop moaning.

You know what I'd like? Less whiny healers that deplete ALL of their mp on holy because they want quicker runs of dungeons - that don't then moan that they have a lack of mp.

I'd also like white mages that know how to utilise shroud of saints to reduce enmity, and black mages that know how to use quelling strikes - priorities in my opinion.

[Tupsi]

Seriously you're moaning about bards not just jumping on the band wagon and singing songs?

How about asking

As said, I think the point is you shouldn't have to ask or tell someone to do their jobs. But like I also said, the issue is SE creating the generic style BRD which is more of an Archer DD than support, so it can be confusing when you see those song icons on your skill bars.

[Merylx]

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It's their job to sing songs. As someone earlier said, it's like a healer not using medica in a massive AoE spike damage situation, or a tank not using combos to keep hate. Monitoring a situation as a bard is vital. If, for example, the healers are continuously having to raise people, then it's going to absolutely destroy their MP pool(it shouldn't be happening, but it does). A good bard will watching closely and use ballad..

[Theresa]

It's their job to sing songs. As someone earlier said, it's like a healer not using medica in a massive AoE spike damage situation, or a tank not using combos to keep hate. Monitoring a situation as a bard is vital. If, for example, the healers are continuously having to raise people, then it's going to absolutely destroy their MP pool(it shouldn't be happening, but it does). A good bard will watching closely and use ballad..

A good bard will watch and use the proper song when needed.

It's like: I'm scholar but I'm not going to use Sacred Soil because I prefer to use Energy Drain and keep up my MP. That makes no sense at all and will make me a selfish person.

[RyuDragnier]

It's their job to sing songs. As someone earlier said, it's like a healer not using medica in a massive AoE spike damage situation, or a tank not using combos to keep hate. Monitoring a situation as a bard is vital. If, for example, the healers are continuously having to raise people, then it's going to absolutely destroy their MP pool(it shouldn't be happening, but it does). A good bard will watching closely and use ballad..

At the same time, depending on which fight it is, a healer needs to know when to not revive. I was healing Titan HM as a SCH, and 2 DPS kept dying over and over again during the final phase (a DRG and a BLM), so I just stopped reviving them, they weren't surviving even with Galvanize, Sacred Soil, and Stoneskin on them (they couldn't dodge WotL properly), so there was no point.

[LalaRu]

a healer needs to know when to not revive.

Sorry to correct you, but I think it is more appropriate to say that people needs to know when accept ress. Healer will ress when have the time to do it, and it may happen that is also not the right moment to instantly accept it.

[RyuDragnier]

Sorry to correct you, but I think it is more appropriate to say that people needs to know when accept ress. Healer will ress when have the time to do it, and it may happen that is also not the right moment to instantly accept it.

Most of the troublesome people I have to rez who die in Titan either don't know the fight, or have latency/lag problems so they're hit with attacks more often than others. I personally had a bad run as a MNK the other day in Titan HM due to latency (one of the rare days) and kept getting hit by everything due to it, finally dying 4 times in the final phase, every single time to WotL. After the 3rd rez I told the WHMs to stop reviving me, and concentrate on keeping the party alive, because they were going to burn through their MP just rezzing me. That is the sort of thing I mean, you must know who the weakest link is in a primal fight and know to not revive them because they are just going to die again. And I don't mean don't revive them after their first death, but after the 3rd time there's no longer a point to it, you KNOW they're going to die again.

[LalaRu]

I don't mean don't revive them after their first death, but after the 3rd time there's no longer a point to it, you KNOW they're going to die again.

Have overlook that. You are right. Just count out the poor people that are being put out of Gaol just over plumes or worse

[Cspr_Answrth]

It's their job to sing songs. As someone earlier said, it's like a healer not using medica in a massive AoE spike damage situation, or a tank not using combos to keep hate. Monitoring a situation as a bard is vital. If, for example, the healers are continuously having to raise people, then it's going to absolutely destroy their MP pool(it shouldn't be happening, but it does). A good bard will watching closely and use ballad..

Sooo, basically what you're saying is - When other people fail to do their jobs correctly (i.e., dying and requiring a raise), Bards have to go out of their way to correct their mistakes.
Got it.

[Tupsi]

Sooo, basically what you're saying is - When other people fail to do their jobs correctly (i.e., dying and requiring a raise), Bards have to go out of their way to correct their mistakes.
Got it.

It's really not that hard to use your support abilities.