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  1. #171
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    Kaitlin Nakano
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    Midgardsormr
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    Warrior Lv 100
    You must be playing with some really bad bards then...
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  2. #172
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    Grimmies's Avatar
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    Grim Tela
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    Cerberus
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Charisma View Post
    Also if u want to be a good bard you have to work with macros, or else u will never get the max dps out of your bard, so basically Bloodletter and Miserys End dont count in the rotation.
    Well, You just gave away that you are certainly not a good Bard.
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  3. #173
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    radius0's Avatar
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    Jade Naos
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    Siren
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    This game has been out for awhile so people are switching/testing out other classes. Understandably, there is an odd transition period. The veteran bard will know their class as both damage-dealer and support role and still push the DPS numbers. Of course, all bards (like any other class) were noobs at one point. Sometimes we gotta assume people are still learning their classes and may need feedback.

    I understand why some Bards are caught off guard with their roles. They came to kill stuff with the benefits of mobility. Archer was originally set up for that. Summoners have the role of both damage dealing and dishing out debuffs on the target. Even in the Arcanist stages, they got a few skills to indicate the direction they are headed to if they pursue Summoner. Archer, though, started out as damage dealing then abruptly switched to support in Bard. SE should've given a few of those support skills earlier on during the Archer stages, to give players an indication of their role.
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  4. #174
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    QT_Melon's Avatar
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    Qt Melon
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    Cactuar
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    Bard Lv 100
    Using Macros for Bards is lazy DPS saying it's 4 buttons is silly. Your Crits can come up at any time. You just waste TP on something you should be monitoring. In the Coils you want to watch what you're shooting so you can DPS appropriately you macro run that you're gonna get some people ticked off.
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  5. #175
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    Mamba's Avatar
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    Lily Spider
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    Odin
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    All this QQing about BRD...
    WHMs, haven't you learned yet?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DxS7eT_ky4
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    There is a little Monkey in all of us....

  6. #176
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    Charisma's Avatar
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    Barrie Capdevila
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    Shiva
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by QT_Melon View Post
    Using Macros for Bards is lazy DPS saying it's 4 buttons is silly. Your Crits can come up at any time. You just waste TP on something you should be monitoring. In the Coils you want to watch what you're shooting so you can DPS appropriately you macro run that you're gonna get some people ticked off.
    Lol, you didnt even read my post, its only about bloodletter and miserys end, they are both off global cooldown, and will be executed as soon as they are ready, without interupting anything.

    Also im not going to comment on troll posts, so dont bother telling me im bad, without giving any explanations.


    Its funny to see how all these bards get offended because i say its a 4 button class, still its my favorite dps class to play, because its so chilled, to do some nice damage, without trying hard ;D
    but its pretty easy to see its mostly the type of bards who dont use songs, because they are overchallenged doing their hard rotation, and evading aoes, that they cant pay any attention to the party window.
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    Last edited by Charisma; 08-04-2014 at 06:27 AM.

  7. #177
    Player Alukah's Avatar
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    Alukah Bast
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    Excalibur
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Not all WHMs who run out of MP are bad, in a 8-man scenario where one of the healers is down and the other has to heal both the party and the main tank ballad could help to get the other healer's mp up quick, or if the main healer's mp gets dangerously low. Or hell, if both healers died and got revived by other healers (in case of ST) or summoners.

    I had a situation like that in ST, both of our healers died and other alliance members helped us raise them, on top of that our tank was MT, with ballad and SoS both healers were fully functional in no time and no one died during that downtime.

    @KenzieLynch I'm curious, when do you think it's appropriate to use songs?
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  8. #178
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    Miste's Avatar
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    Miste Vaer
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    Excalibur
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by KenzieLynch View Post
    Well lets think...if the healer is having to raise party members so much that he / she runs out of Mana, is the bard the root problem here?
    You are just being defensive, no where in my post did I say BRDs were a problem or bad. Just pointing out that if that issue arises and we could possibly still pull off a win if the bard tossed ballad out for a minute then I wouldn't see why they would have such an issue with it. I can actually remember some Titan HM way back where ballad saved the day cause other healer was dead and I was solo healing it. Same with some epic Titan EX wins with my other healer dead.

    The point I was trying to make was ..why wouldn't you do everything possible to help your party succeed? Instead of you know...not ballading cause you think the healer should not raise people...and I'm talking about like 2 people dying once, which can cost a lot of MP, yet you could still win if you just raised them and kept on going. It's like..it is not the bard's fault but you could help your party?
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  9. #179
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    Logo's Avatar
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    Thera Logo
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    Sargatanas
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    Lancer Lv 52
    LOLBRDS sing? I didnt know that.
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  10. #180
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    Ineb Yakiria
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    Diabolos
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Charisma View Post
    Stuff yo.
    I'll be honest. Didn't read most of this post, but any dps that use macros are lowering their dps. What you are describing is called the ability queue. Where when you press the button and it'll automatically cast the skill once GCD is up, but with macros you can't do that, at least not on this game. You'd have to manually push it with macros aka button mash, but there's still a delay compared to automatically using it. And that difference can actually become pretty major when relating to dps.

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