Why is FFXIV considered to be so hard/hardcore?

[Priya]

To be honest, I am against the fact that people are relying on videos, it's a bad influences, it's causing people to only know how to "read from the book" instead of reacting to the current situation. Videos are not a bad thing, but it should never be used as a strict guidelines and be followed 100% flawlessly.

Your second sentence is exactly what videos are for. Knowing visually what to watch out for is often more helpful than reading a description of it (subjective). Videos are only there to show you what the boss is going to do. They may have tips on how to handle each mechanic, but anyone treating them as gospel is doing it wrong. The player still needs to know how to adapt. I do not understand why people in this game are so against researching mechanics (that's all a video is). /Rant

[Odett]

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I feel the same way. Getting informed of the fight really speeds up things, and I really don't understand the "I want to go in blind" people, because unless you're making a blind PF, you're only relegating responsibility to someone else in the group.

At the same time, people that treat videos like gospel are just as bad, because inflexibility will get you killed. A good adventurer is someone who not only know how to deal with a mechanic, but also know how a mechanic works and why they deal with it that way, because that grants flexibility and a chance to recover if things go wrong.

As much as I'm grateful for people like Mrhappy who post guides on youtube, we have to treat those guides with a grain of salt. They're there for information, and nothing more. Him saying "this is how my group handled it" and you doing it the same way expecting the same results will oftentimes not happen, because they are some of the best players in this game, and your group does not have that skill level. Videos are there to get informed, but as far as strategies, that's up to your group to discuss, and that's where the social aspect comes in. Being knowledge-blind to the "why" of mechanics and handling something a certain way because "mrhappy said so" will only get you so far.

[givemeraptors]

I feel the same way. Getting informed of the fight really speeds up things, and I really don't understand the "I want to go in blind" people, because unless you're making a blind PF, you're only relegating responsibility to someone else in the group.

From a personal, more subjective standpoint:
Have you ever run a new dungeon with an entire group of people who didn't know what to expect? It's an incredible amount of fun and for that first (and maybe only) run the game doesn't feel so heavily scripted. Flexibility, improvisation and skill are most important instead of being a slave to routine. The first run through Stone Vigil HM, the appearance of a second Giruveganaus while we were trying to figure out how the first one worked instantly killed two players in our party. We actually managed to win that battle (yay SMN battle rez!), but it was touch and go for a little bit and that was far more exciting than it is now where the only danger is falling asleep from boredom. People want to go in blind to experience that exhilaration and the surprise of the reveal.

From an objective standpoint:
The game tells players to sign themselves up in Duty Finder and defeat X. It doesn't say, "Look up a video or read a guide, then register for Duty Finder." When I started playing I never said I was new because... well, because why? I don't know if it's standard MMO practice or not because this is my first MMO, but I will say it's completely reasonable for players to stay quiet about doing something the first time, or not understand/wanting to watch a video of a dungeon before they do it because nothing in-game states otherwise and FFXIV is designed so that everything but Coil + EX primals (give or take a Levi) can be beaten totally blind. Now I will say if I'm new to content, just so nobody goes ballistic in the midst of an instance but I still won't look up a guide. The one time I did, for Twintania, it made things worse because the group I was in was doing it differently from the video and I was stuck with trying to reconcile what we were doing in-game with what I watched online. It made things much harder and the video only ended up hindering me.

Ultimately, it all comes down to player skill. I've seen first-timers do really well in endgame content with hardly any explanation, and I've seen first-timers with paragraphs of clarification or explanations via voice-chat fail utterly. A bad player that watches a video is still a bad player.

[Wizhard]

Please give me a fight where you can't... Lodestone me... I have raided as every job except healers in this game...

Ever been to T8 savage?
How about dealing with 4 bio-towers(with RANDOM placements and a new tower that lowers everyones hp by about 20%), 2 allagan fields, ballistic missiles that push everyone out of the circles first(except the target ofc) and a dread that cant be tanked near the boss ALL AT THE SAME TIME

[Taruranto]

Ever been to T8 savage?

No one likes wasting time, though.

[Charisma]

No one likes wasting time, though.

Believe it or not, people that raid for fun, still exist.

[Taruranto]

Believe it or not, people that raid for fun, still exist.

Yes, people raid every night the same raid, for years, for "fun".

Sure, sure. *wink*wink*

[Edli]

Yes, people raid every night the same raid, for years, for "fun".

Sure, sure. *wink*wink*

Well the fact that there are people out there trying to beat savage proves you wrong wink wink wink

There are plenty of games that do not have carrots. Why do people play them according to you?

[Taruranto]

Well the fact that there are people out there trying to beat savage proves you wrong wink wink wink

Some people like wasting time and do everything SE tells them, yeah

There are plenty of games that do not have carrots. Why do people play them according to you?

These games are not mmorpg.

[Volcano]

Some people like wasting time and do everything SE tells them, yeah



These games are not mmorpg.

You're trying a little to hard brah, Bottom line, some people do not think the same way you do. Let it go.