When is an i100 item better than an i110? - I.E. ST Hands

[MythToken]

If you fulfill job #1, you can start focusing on job #2. Which is more DPS. This is why STR accessories or i90 penta accs exist.

PS I've beaten t9 5 times with i90 legs/belt, with 30 STR allotment. I'm putting such a strain on my healers I'm sure. So mucht hat one of them went 0 MND allotment to prove a point.

Would you wear full fending, and swap out that chest piece to increase your dps?

Also this isn't the point of this thread, I am in complete agreement about more DPS.

The point of this thread is that someone was asking if an i100 piece is better than an i110.

And my rebuttal was directed at the person suggesting that the i100 chest piece was ever better than the i110. Which it just isn't.


pssttt hey OP, everyone in this discussion is wearing the noct lorica..... just some food for thought. Even the guy telling you to wear the i100

[SeraviEdalborez]

Would you wear full fending, and swap out that chest piece to increase your dps?

Yes, if it is a proven DPS increase. Because if 2 defense (and negligible parry and assuming acc isn't a problem) is causing you to wipe, you have bigger issues. Or should we wait until everyone is full i110 before doing any meaningful content?

[MythToken]

Yes, if it is a proven DPS increase. Because if 2 defense (and negligible parry and assuming acc isn't a problem) is causing you to wipe, you have bigger issues. Or should we wait until everyone is full i110 before doing any meaningful content?

You are a liar, and you would never swap this chest out for a 2dps gain, over swapping out your accessories first, for greater gains.

And waiting for i110??? we are talking about having access to both and choosing one over the other, you may have beaten t9 but you will never slay the reading comprehension monster.


Item level = amount of points allotted


it makes no sense to take a loss of item level, when dps gains can be made much easier elsewhere, and you OVERALL stats are waaaayyy better.

The higher strength would also scale with your secondaries better on the Noct piece. Please take into consideration the OP and his intent, your advice is very bad for new tanks or aspiring tanks.


You guys go ahead and swap out your chest piece, and I will swap out accessories and have more dps than you.

[Rbstr]

And my rebuttal was directed at the person suggesting that the i100 chest piece was ever better than the i110. Which it just isn't.

If you want to do more damage it is better. It simply is more damage. Are there other ways of doing that? Yeah and they will want to be explored first. But really, you're losing negligible numbers of defense stats for only marginal DPS gains with the swap: Swapping an accessory is a much larger change in HP than going i110 to i100 tank chests.

The way I see it is that, if you haven't upgraded the Noct Lorica and you don't need oils, the ST chest is something to get and will keep just fine until you can get a t9 chest. It's a good alternative to ever getting the Weathered Lorica in the first place.

pssttt hey OP, everyone in this discussion is wearing the noct lorica..... just some food for thought. Even the guy telling you to wear the i100

Lets be "realistic" here: This argument is over insignificant amounts of defense and damage. If you've already got the i110 it's just not a priority when you could be gettings oils or UATs or gearing alts.

[dramamine]

If you want to do more damage it is better. It simply is more damage. Are there other ways of doing that? Yeah and they will want to be explored first. But really, you're losing negligible numbers of defense stats for only marginal DPS gains with the swap: Swapping an accessory is a much larger change in HP than going i110 to i100 tank chests.

The way I see it is that, if you haven't upgraded the Noct Lorica and you don't need oils, the ST chest is something to get and will keep just fine until you can get a t9 chest.


Lets be "realistic" here: This argument is over insignificant amounts of defense and damage. If you've already got the i110 it's just not a priority when you could be gettings oils or UATs or gearing alts.

I think the problem is that the first sentence of this post is 100% accurate, and the rest of it ignores the question in the OP in favor of epeen wagging.

The benefit of the i100 piece is the extra DPS you'd get by wearing it. That doesn't make it better than an i110 piece unless you do nothing but OT OR you can get away with swapping it out without lowering your healer's DPS and you've already swapped out all of the jewelry you can.

Yeah, it's a great alternative to a weathered lorica. Yeah having it means you can focus on upgrading other gear or gear for other classes since the benefit of going from the i100 armor to a 110 lorica is smaller than the benefit from going from a weathered to unweathered lorica. And yeah, it's a desirable piece if you're putting together a DPS set to speed up lower ilvl content. But as a piece of pure tanking gear, it's not better than a 110 by any stretch of the imagination.