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    LunarEmerald's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    BRDs already compete with other roles. While they operate at a lower sustained DPS level, they remain almost unaffected by mechanics in battles that lead to off time for other DPS. Shortly, they have the most on-target time. For many fights, this can lead to them being highly competitive if not top.

    Like any other DPS job, though, there are also fights where BRDs arent particularly good: fighrs where there aren't very many mechanics that force offtime for melee or movement for BLMs. Eve then, BRDs are desired for their songs as a recovery tool.
    That's a lie. There's no fight in the game bard isn't good at.

    Bard's dps isn't that much lower and in most cases, it's higher, because the melee aren't that good. It's not uncommon to see bard being near the top in coil 2 runs.

    I rarely see exceptional melees that can outclass me. I do see them but they're few and far in between.
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    Noctis Umbra
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    That's a lie. There's no fight in the game bard isn't good at.

    Bard's dps isn't that much lower and in most cases, it's higher, because the melee aren't that good. It's not uncommon to see bard being near the top in coil 2 runs.

    I rarely see exceptional melees that can outclass me. I do see them but they're few and far in between.
    I'm not disagreeing here, I know BRD dps can be quite high in content. I was elaborating on just that.

    If, however, you are doing top dps as a BRD in basically anything, you're either playing with melee that are severely below you in gear, or just bad, like you suggest.

    When I do comparisons, I assume even skill. Content like Turn 8 for example is built for MNK.

    So, yes, there exists content where BRD may not be able to hit as high dps values as some other jobs, but unlike other jobs that's rarwlynif ever due to BRD being bad at the fight, but rather a more risky or effective dps job being less obstructed by it.

    BRD basically does the same run and gun in any fight, for the most part.
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    Necato Feol
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 64
    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    That's a lie. There's no fight in the game bard isn't good at.

    Bard's dps isn't that much lower and in most cases, it's higher, because the melee aren't that good. It's not uncommon to see bard being near the top in coil 2 runs.

    I rarely see exceptional melees that can outclass me. I do see them but they're few and far in between.
    Well... I'm terrible at T7, this fight is a nightmare. I use only the threat meter as a reference and I'm always 8th on Melusine. (2nd till the first Renaud though)
    Most of the time I am above Melee, but when it comes to mages (both SMN and BLM) I just can't compete with them.
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    Vodomir Daemaethor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Necato View Post
    Well... I'm terrible at T7, this fight is a nightmare. I use only the threat meter as a reference and I'm always 8th on Melusine. (2nd till the first Renaud though)
    Most of the time I am above Melee, but when it comes to mages (both SMN and BLM) I just can't compete with them.
    Threat meter is a horrible way of gauging DPS. And if you are the kiter in your group, that would totally explain your low threat on Melusine.

    Btw. if you are above the Melee most of the time and your melee are even less able to compete with your mages than you are, then your melees are doing something wrong.
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