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  1. #151
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    JustMatt's Avatar
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    Marius Nelha
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    I think the problem here is that people wanted (expected) the Summoner to be the class and something like High Summoner to be the Job.

    I cannot say I am overly fond of the state of the Summoner and thus, if given the opportunity, I would vote to have it reworked. However, I expect that it is far too late for Square to make any sort of changes to it or at least the changes some of people in this thread want.
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    Last edited by JustMatt; 07-26-2014 at 02:37 AM.

  2. #152
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    Crysta Elizabeth
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    Lamia
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    Bard Lv 90
    Yes, summoner makes me sad. Its Warlock with less interesting pets.
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  3. #153
    Player kidvideo's Avatar
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    Ember Rage
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    Since the Ramuh-nerf, I'm having to Sustain more often, thus, lowering DPS.
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  4. #154
    Player Akiza's Avatar
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    Rhel Eryut
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by JustMatt View Post
    I think the problem here is that people wanted (expected) the Summoner to be the class and something like High Summoner to be the Job.

    I cannot say I am overly fond of the state of the Summoner and thus, if given the opportunity, I would vote to have it reworked. However, I expect that it is far too late for Square to make any sort of changes to it or at least the changes some of people in this thread want.
    You mean people were expecting the Evoker to be the class and Summoner to be the job.
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  5. #155
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    Zami Terrechant
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    Tonberry
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    Monk Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by kidvideo View Post
    Since the Ramuh-nerf, I'm having to Sustain more often, thus, lowering DPS.
    if your pet is in melle range of your tank then you have bigger concerns than worrying about how much you need to use sustain, that or paid no attention to what was actually changed in the ramuh fight.
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  6. #156
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    Sen Terrechant
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    You mean people were expecting the Evoker to be the class and Summoner to be the job.
    /sigh

    I almost have nothing else to say to Azika, just /sigh and /facepalm
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  7. #157
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    Nebulon Gumball
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    Gilgamesh
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    Maybe if SE didn't focus on the Primals as bosses. We probably would have gotten them as pet.


    TBH would like a complete redesign of the egi's just something.
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  8. #158
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    Ardan Lauriers
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Sen_Terrechant View Post
    /sigh

    I almost have nothing else to say to Azika, just /sigh and /facepalm
    Do I dare show people a quote of Akiza wanting TIME MAGIC for SMN of all spells to choose from?
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  9. #159
    Player Akiza's Avatar
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    Rhel Eryut
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ardan View Post
    Do I dare show people a quote of Akiza wanting TIME MAGIC for SMN of all spells to choose from?
    Time Magic is more flashier and visual appealing for the Summoner base class than Arcanists Disease Mage.
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  10. #160
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    Dree Elle
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    Behemoth
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    Summoner Lv 60
    WE INTERRUPT THIS THREAD FOR THE FOLLOWING UNPOPULAR OPINION! READER DISCRETION IS ADVISED!

    I am fine with the way the FFXIV SMN is, both from an aesthetic and gameplay standpoint. Each mainline numbered FF is completely self-contained (those with sequels never break fully into another mainline numbered game), and experiences differ as the classes evolve and change with design/vision, implementation and setting/lore. The worlds are different, therefore, I am comfortable with the implementation of things being different, as well.

    If the FFXIV SMN recieved an "overhaul", it would no longer be a FFXIV SMN. Also, lore would have to be retconned and/or discarded for this to occur, and, as we have seen already with the case of Phlegethon/Acheron, the devs aren't too keen on doing that.

    I will continue to enjoy playing my FFXIV SMN.

    THIS HAS BEEN AN UNPOPULAR OPINION! WE NOW RETURN YOU TO YOUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED SUMMONER BASHING THREAD!
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