Having higher level gear shouldn't BREAK coil runs!!!

[Hybris-Maenad]

It's like you guys think high dps is the only measure of skill in this game.

If you know the fight and know the mechanics you shouldn't be wiping over and over.
If you are, it's because you're not skilled enough to pay attention to the phases.

Sorry you don't get an easy ride for having decent gear. Unfortunately you're playing a game that requires paying attention.

[Makado]

It's like you guys think high dps is the only measure of skill in this game.

If you know the fight and know the mechanics you shouldn't be wiping over and over.
If you are, it's because you're not skilled enough to pay attention to the phases.

Sorry you don't get an easy ride for having decent gear. Unfortunately you're playing a game that requires paying attention.

Yes I know how hard it is for me to pay attention that's why I got some weird In Another Bind 3 achievement this lockout. So I guess I obviously just don't understand this game. Damn.

[Welsper59]

Yes I know how hard it is for me to pay attention that's why I got some weird In Another Bind 3 achievement this lockout. So I guess I obviously just don't understand this game. Damn.

Your progression point does not mean you understand your situation. The fact you think it does already raises a flag that you might not. You understand the fights, clearly... but you don't understand the game. Big difference.

No, but my wife and the rest of my real life needs attention. So yea, after weeks and weeks of doing coil successfully, I kind of want to faceroll a little bit. So I can hang out with them and not say "sorry babe, still progression. I hope you understand"

Must suck if you waste time after a wipe then. I bet she'd divorce you if your minutes lost is that important. Though a smart man would know how to prioritize their time between entertainment and responsibility.

[Askarya]

Sorry, I'm talking from my experiences where we have to put away our weapons because its actually what we have to do. That is what we are forced into. It doesn't matter that your group sometimes pushed something a little extra. I'm talking where we have pushed so quickly just doing what our jobs are designed to do that unless we do so then we lose. Possibly the comprehension needs to go the opposite way.

The one and only fight that FORCES you into a dps stop is Ifrit Ex. In EVERY other fight you get to choose. If you guys aren't able to keep your focus up and,for example, kill the levi adds while he dives, then it's not the games fault. Your gear is definitly good enough to handle this kind of situation.
Also, if one of your raidmembers has to watch ONE little thing more and call it out for skipping 3 other mechanics it makes the fight easier. But this works only if you really understand how the fight works. From what you've said in all your posts i get the feeling that you and your group just learned all those fights from video guides and tweaked those premade strategies to your own needs without really analyzing the whole fight. Otherwise you wouldn't have to cry about something like this because most of those issues can be solved nearly on the fly (maybe2-3 wipes inbetween but those can also happen if someone isn't focused enough - i just say "voice" at this point).

No, but my wife and the rest of my real life needs attention. So yea, after weeks and weeks of doing coil successfully, I kind of want to faceroll a little bit. So I can hang out with them and not say "sorry babe, still progression. I hope you understand"

After weeks of succesfully clearing coil it's not progression raiding anymore. At this point you have that content on farm.


Oh and also Burst checks and DPS stops are valid encounter mechanics, which means it's totally fine if some encounter force you to "just stand around".
So either learn to analyze fights properly and adapt, or dps stop to keep your old phase push timings. And if you want to just faceroll stuff... maybe hunts would be better content for you guys.

[Pinworms]

Frankly it's a fail on SE's part. The better yours groups gear the harder it is when everyone pushes DD. We shouldn't have to hold dps for 20 seconds or w/e to wait on a boss to use her skill because we are pew peeling too hard. I think if you hit a certain phase the skills from the previous phase should either be omitted or automaticly synced to the new phase.

Levithan is horrendous for this situation. Pugs don't hold dps normally. Some premade groups derp and don't. It is punishment for high dps no matter how it's sliced and I'd like to know SE's reason behind it.

[A_Magical_Unicorn_Rider]

Levithan is horrendous for this situation. Pugs don't hold dps normally. Some premade groups derp and don't. It is punishment for high dps no matter how it's sliced and I'd like to know SE's reason behind it.

It's like you guys think high dps is the only measure of skill in this game.

If you know the fight and know the mechanics you shouldn't be wiping over and over.
If you are, it's because you're not skilled enough to pay attention to the phases.

Sorry you don't get an easy ride for having decent gear. Unfortunately you're playing a game that requires paying attention.

There's your answer. Easiest example of this being blatantly true: Titan EX. Paying attention to mechanics is KEY to clearing him, even if it's just memorizing a pattern.

Other example: T6. Blighted Bouquet is a nice mechanic to prove that not ALL fights can just be facerolled/zerged through.

[Sygmaelle]

We got INSANE dps in Coils and are dealin with Allagan field + tower. I mean if you cant even use mantra + virus on Avatar + soils + adlo + stoneskin to save the day, why are you dpsin that hard then if you cant prevent damage taken too ?

The only "problem" is the voice at 35% on Melusine, I mean, just wait to get the voice and dps again. Its like what a 5 seconds wait ? Does it honestly lower the dps that much ?

No, no it doesnt ..

[SarcasmMisser]

OP is about 2 months too late into realizing that t7 has weird phasing mechanics, and many years late in realizing that slowing DPS for correct phasing is a valid encounter mechanic in raids.

Also I'm pretty sure anywhere between few to no-one cares about sick record-breaking DPS on t7, it's a execution fight and people know that shriek RNG screws individual DPS anyway.

[Sygmaelle]

But thats the thing you dont need to slow down dps in any fight. Literally in any of them.

Like, if renault is / are about to be unpetrified, make the bard use shadowbind or your summoner simply swiftcast tri disaster and carry on. Yes, it work. Have to be also really really quick and aware but doable.

[Gilthas]

Can't say that I have much endgame experience but I think it's ridiculous that DPS believe that they should be able to go full-throttle for every single second of a fight.