Please fix dresses!

[Phenidate]

Camate: I'll answer the question. You want answers?
Grekumah: I think I'm entitled!
Camate: You want answers?!
Grekumah: I want the truth!
Camate: You can't handle the truth!

Yeah ok. Why even bother saying this? It's off topic and has very little relation to whats being discussed here.

I'll take it at face value. We can't handle the truth? Maybe we need some actual truth. A response from one of the people involved in designing outfits, we could decide if we are or aren't ready to handle the truths of whats going on. Pass this on to the team and see if they could provide some actual details - they're obviously working hard, maybe they can explain some things for us.

I've got another thread where we got a straight answer from one of the people involved with working on hotbar sets. We had some of the constraints they had to work with and why some things just weren't going to be possible explained to us.

What I've seen so far in this thread and the one referenced previously by Grekuman doesn't explain why a lot of new gear coming out; cosmetic outfits who's sole purpose in the game is to look nice mind you; why these outfits aren't up to par with gear that's come out previously. There are plenty of loose fitting outfits that go past the knees, robes and coats - not that much different from skirts and dresses and gowns, that have this issue solved or minimized.

What's making these newer pieces so special that they are immune to what made the other things work? Why can't these problems be solved with what worked in the past?

[Tupsi]

Yeah ok. Why even bother saying this? It's off topic and has very little relation to whats being discussed here.

I'll take it at face value. We can't handle the truth? Maybe we need some actual truth. A response from one of the people involved in designing outfits

See, and people wonder why the comm reps are usually "not responding" lol. Anyway, they told us during beta exactly why - To get gear out faster, which they said a few times before. Players wanted faster updates so in all actuality, they're simply giving us what we (not me) asked for.

[abzoluut]

See, and people wonder why the comm reps are usually "not responding" lol. Anyway, they told us during beta exactly why - To get gear out faster, which they said a few times before. Players wanted faster updates so in all actuality, they're simply giving us what we (not me) asked for.

I think what bothers people (incl me) is the "large variety" part when clearly this is not the case.

There are two things about the 1st comm rep's response. 1: he repeats the "large variety" (there is none, go back a few pages and you see me explaining exactly what is happening with gear). 2: new gear clips where earlier, similar released gear doesn't. Isn't that a bit odd? I understand corners need to be cut, but these are vicious shortcuts.

[Phenidate]

See, and people wonder why the comm reps are usually "not responding" lol. Anyway, they told us during beta exactly why - To get gear out faster, which they said a few times before. Players wanted faster updates so in all actuality, they're simply giving us what we (not me) asked for.

If all they have to add is a cheesy movie quote with names swapped in... I'm not looking for a friend to tell jokes to me. I'm looking for a community representative to speak with us and communicate our concerns to the dev team.

The quality of gear is dropping with these new cosmetics - missing the solutions to long loose clothing like other robes and coats and gowns - and suffering clipping issues because of it. Rather than addressing these concerns we're told they will not even address them at all and gave us a response from 2 months ago as reiteration.

Two months ago we didn't have the newer sets of cosmetic outfits.

I'm guessing that by stonewalling us with a two month old response, this issue won't even be passed along to the art team.

[Grekumah]

Rather than addressing these concerns we're told they will not even address them at all and gave us a response from 2 months ago as reiteration.

Two months ago we didn't have the newer sets of cosmetic outfits.

I'm guessing that by stonewalling us with a two month old response, this issue won't even be passed along to the art team.

Contrary to belief, the response we posted was the reply that we received when we brought up this thread. While it is reiterating what was mentioned before, this is the current plan for these types of issues. Should anything change, we'll be sure to let you know.

[Barboron]

Contrary to belief, the response we posted was the reply that we received when we brought up this thread. While it is reiterating what was mentioned before, this is the current plan for these types of issues. Should anything change, we'll be sure to let you know.

And the newest member of our community team holds no punches! Telling it like it is!

[Phenidate]

And the newest member of our community team holds no punches! Telling it like it is!

A straight answer like that is preferred.

My stance on clipping still stands, it's good to know they heard what we think on the matter. Maybe in the future they'll go back and tweak the outfits the way they did with some of those hairstyles.

[Barboron]

A straight answer like that is preferred.

My stance on clipping still stands, it's good to know they heard what we think on the matter. Maybe in the future they'll go back and tweak the outfits the way they did with some of those hairstyles.

You were given a straight answer to begin with. From Camate himself, right here:

Due to this the development team has decided to continue putting the designs ahead of the concerns about clipping.

And it's not a matter of quantity over quality either. There's limitations to the quality due to limitations in hardware. The more quality you want in, the more your system has to deal with. Be it the PS3, PS4, or PC. I'm not going to get into a debate about one platform holding another back because, well...that's a B.S. excuse. You're entitled to your stance on clipping of course. Personally, I am not playing for COSPLAY, as much as I like a good glamour, but I think the system is fine as is.

[Risvertasashi]

Contrary to belief, the response we posted was the reply that we received when we brought up this thread. While it is reiterating what was mentioned before, this is the current plan for these types of issues. Should anything change, we'll be sure to let you know.

While I can sort of understand the original response... Well, it would be a lot more understandable if it was just some obscure combinations. But for example:

The WHM robe and boots (AF/AF+1) clip. These are two items *meant* to be worn together.

And as some earlier posters noted, the clipping in general tends to occur with all races with just about any full robe.

A little clipping between different sets? Sure, fine, can't account for all possibilities. But when it's across the board for even items from the same set? It's disappointing to see this written off in a game otherwise so polished.

[Tupsi]

I'm guessing that by stonewalling us with a two month old response, this issue won't even be passed along to the art team.

They'll pass it along but there's no plans to fix it as, despite word usage, there is a 'large variety' of gear - Remember, variety can mean:

-Vanity usage
-Different sets of stats (you know, variety?)
-Ways to obtain

Things like that still fall under variety. Look at XI, there's an astronomical variety of gear in that game, but many recycled models and it's still not incorrect to say there's a variety of gear in XI. So while it would be nice, nitpicking the 'variety' when pretty much every MMO recycles..is a bit....silly when you get down to it.

As for what you showed, simply doing that change won't really fix it in the long run, it'd just honestly make matters worse when you think about it. One of the main issues simply is the universal bones (I suppose you can say) since they didn't want to differentiate the races and genders this go round.