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  1. #11
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    Garlyle's Avatar
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    Alvis Yune
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    Adamantoise
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    Fisher Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    I just don't really see what made ST special enough to screw with the usual (and required, since it has to be DF) party formula.
    Frankly you can almost solo-tank Syrcus Tower, that's what. That's just how it was designed. Forcing a second tank in per party would have just slowed parties down and placed an extra three people who would've been basically bored and useless into each party. LotA at least has enough adds flying around, party splitting, etc. for 6 tanks to sort of make sense.

    I agree that it's not quite ideal, but I can also understand it - it can be tough enough to design to provide for three tanks in a single fight, regardless of scale. Nevermind six. I think Syrcus being one-tank only is a realisation of that among things they learned while designing CT.
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    Last edited by Garlyle; 07-25-2014 at 08:43 PM.

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    Elven's Avatar
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    Arwyn Elven
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    Tonberry
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    There is no real tank mechanics in there to warrant 2 per party I actually prefer the first CT it has better use of all jobs that second is just a big mess. AOE heals hell aoe everything and just avoid their AOE. No strategy necessary people are in there for the loot nothing more and what's worse people are only interested in the last drop. No sorry two tanks in that instance is pointless.
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  3. #13
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    Grizzlebeard's Avatar
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    Fey Darkwalker
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altijacek View Post
    This is a new character for me
    Just for clarity, if it's a new character what are you doing in ST? I mean, from your statement I'd take it you're not geared in Myth or equipment suitable to tank that content.
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  4. #14
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    Bar Boron
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    Odin
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Altijacek View Post
    I am leveling them up as fast as I can but that's actually not a valid answer. This is a new character for me, and what if there are people who don't wanna play a different job?
    If that's the case, SE please "fix" it so I can enter CT and ST with an 8 man healer party. All my friends are healers and I don't like how you do things.
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  5. #15
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    NorthernLadMSP's Avatar
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    Adore Mi
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    Jenova
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    Completely disagree with the OP. I love the one tank per party design. Gives DPS faster queues, and I mean come on, most of the tanks basically did nothing in the original CT.
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    Kickle Cubicle
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    Completely disagree with the OP. I love the one tank per party design. Gives DPS faster queues, and I mean come on, most of the tanks basically did nothing in the original CT.
    Quite honestly, with the way ST works, even one tank per party is too much. The whole thing can be tanked by one person.
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  7. #17
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    Valentyne Laska
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    Well, at least more people can get into Cyrcus Tower than Labyrinth of Ancients, but it came at a cost. The whole point of a twenty-four man raid is to provide the opportunity to create more complex combat scenarios than what you can get in an eight man raid. Although not difficult, the fights in Labyrinth of the Ancients were more intricate and interesting than what we have in Cyrcus Tower.

    It does help point out one particular flaw with the holy trinity though: Complexity of encounters entirely hinges on the number of tanks involved. The number of DPS and healers literally contributes nothing to the complexity of an encounter. Hybrid tank/dps or tank/healers will open up the chance for additional variety though.

    Yeah, I know it has nothing to do with the OPs post, but still felt it was worth mentioning.
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  8. #18
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    Adore Mi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eekiki View Post
    Quite honestly, with the way ST works, even one tank per party is too much. The whole thing can be tanked by one person.
    True, but then there would be never-ending crying threads from tanks about how long they have to wait to get a Syrcus Tower queue.
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  9. #19
    Player Tiggy's Avatar
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    Tiggy Te'al
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    The dungeon has better mechanics since they aren't trying to keep 6 tanks busy. This is an unfortunate side effect, but a necessary one.
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  10. #20
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    Aria Placida
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    Lamia
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    Ninja Lv 88
    Quote Originally Posted by Fendred View Post
    Although not difficult, the fights in Labyrinth of the Ancients were more intricate and interesting than what we have in Cyrcus Tower.
    Huh? There were intricate fights in LotA? Where?
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